Please - can somebody else have THOUROUGH look at my links - and READ between the lines FOR LITTLE SISSY BOY here??? He cleacrly has been so blinded by the Turks that he has been incapable of reading ALL THE PLACES THEY CALL THE DAMN DOG A "KURDISH SHEPHERD DOG"...
And as for you STUPID comment about:
(And stop calling me a Turk baby boy, because I have more noble Kurdish blood in my veins than you will ever have. If I would sit here writing what my blood has done for Kurdistan, you would turn into an "Arab of the Plains" in seconds. Stop doing SEPARATISM among Kurds and I will let you keep your honour.)
To put it into a comma doesn't make it into a secret message only for me to see - just so you know you TOTALY made a fool of yourself... To claim such things when not being familiar with the person you are charging -and to even BE SO ARROGANT - WOW! Where did you come from?? YOu must be a nationalist TURK - because no Kurdish noble would dishonour himself and become pittyfull to say such things... And for you info - the PKK which you seem to be in love with - THEY HATE THE KURDISH NOBLES... They are communist - remeber??? They don't like a hierarchy... That is what the Eshiret system is about... and if you are a PKK lover - then you are a traitor to your eshiret...
But what's more - you weren't able to find the places in my links where it spesifically says: Kangal (Kurdish Shepherd Dog) also lives in ALL areas of Kurdistan... you just run through all of them as fast as you could just because of your temper
This dog has more then ONE name... The Turks claim one thing but others claim else: KANGAL - KENGAL - GAMMAL - GEMMAL - KEJAL - KUVAZ - KURDISH FLOCK GUARD DOG - TURKISH FLOCK GUARD DOG - KURDISH SHEPHERD DOG - TURKISH SHEPHERD DOG... ONE AND THE SAME RACE! IT MATTERS NOT IF THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT COLOR... THEY COME IN MANY COLORS!
LET'S ON THE BASIS OF THIS HAVE A LOOK AT THE LINKS:
Here are extracts: (SECREAT MESSAGE TO BEXIK: I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED THE IMPORTANT NAMES YOU NEED TO SEE)
As the dog was already domesticated at the time of the domestication of sheep and the predators (especially wolves, but also panthers and bears) were present, it seems to be evident that dogs were used for the defense of flocks in 9,000 BC in the territory of today's Kurdistan and only later in other parts of Eurasia. These dogs evolved (selected by man, by wolves and by themselves) into larger animals to be able to match the wolf and later not only the small Southern Canis lupus arabs but even the much stronger European wolf (Canis lupus lupus) and other subspecies. The spreading of Kuvasz-sized dogs is identical with the spreading of domestic sheep both geographically and in time.
On the basis of archeological, geographical, cytogenetic (sheep) and morphological evidences it can be stated that the flock guardians of Eurasia are from the same stock, but their origin is not Tibet but the area of today's Kurdistan. It may be supposed, too, that the Kurdish sheep guarding dog - living in the area of its origin - is the common ancestor of others, including the Tibetan Mastiff. It also means that the group of flock guards is probably at least 11,000 years old, existing long before written history. The earliest evidence of domestic sheep is from 9,000 BC.
According to the latest information available to us in Joseph P. Gentzel's new book, the Great Pyrenees developed into a unique breed in the isolation of the Great Pyrenees Mountains between approximately 3000 B.C. and 1000 B.C. Their ancestors came from the Middle East, through Europe and arrived in the Pyrenees with the first flocks of sheep around 3000 B.C. The earliest known ancestor of the Great Pyrenees is the Kurdish Flock Guard Dog which dates back to about 11,000 B.C.
Gammal (Kangal):
According to some evidences Kangal dogs (an active working breed used to guard sheep and livestock) are found
throughout Kurdistan of Iran. Bijan Eliasi, an Iranian Kurd and a researcher of "Gammal dogs" have seen these dogs, personally, from Kermanshah all the way to Rezaieh, just about
everywhere in Kurdistan of Iran. Kurdish people beleive that Kangal dog is a native breed from the Kangal town (about 80 km south of Sivas) in northwest Kurdistan in Turkey and this breed of dog has been living among the Kurds for thousands of years. The Kurdish name on the breed is Gammal. On the other hand, Turkish recognize the Kangal Dog as a native dogs of Turkey, which is a very specific regional breed of shepherd's dog that is found just in and around the Sivas region of modern Turkey. In this case that these dogs can be find in Iran, they say:
AND YOU TRUSTED THIS: TO BE TRUE??? SOMETHING WRITTEN BY STUPID TURKS: "if we imagine a circle around Sivas with a radius of 100 miles or so, that's the area where we'll find purebred Kangal Dogs. As we get farther from the Sivas-Kangal center, the dogs begin to be less and less pure. Iran is very far east, beyond Lake Van. The dogs will look less and less like Kangal Dogs and more like CAOs and COs as you approach the Iranian/Armenian borders. And just because a dog is the same color as these dogs, it does not mean they are a Kangal Dog".
I found an Interesting e-mail text about Kangal dogs in Iran, somewhere in Internet. This letter is by Darius Zangana on Sunday, June 20, 1999: "As a child born in the Iranian Kurdistan, I grew up with several Gammal/Kangal dogs. In fact the ones I had were big enough for a six-year old (that I were), to ride on their back! The poor lovely devils were always happy to indulge me. Since I moved to the US as a young teenager, I never saw another dog like my old Gammal. I lived 900 miles away from Kangal, on the opposite end of Kurdistan, and still, that was the dog we most commonly had."
AND PEOPLE AS PREJUDICE ABOUT RELIGION
HAVE TO BE COMMUNIST:
The dog in Islamic law.
Dogs are mentioned four times in the Koran (5:4, 7:176, 18:18, 22). Ignaz Goldziher argued that in the time of the Prophet Moháammad the dog was not considered unclean (pp. 9-10). In later Islamic legal texts they are said to be unclean (najes be'l-¿ayn), but the use of guard dogs, sheep dogs, and especially hunting dogs is allowed (Moháammad b. H®osayn T®u@s^, I, pp. 92, 94), as trained dogs are considered livestock (bah^ma). Their sale, purchase, and rental are permissible (Moháammad b. H®osayn T®u@s^, II, pp. 165-66, III, pp. 57, 250). The flesh of game killed by a hunting dog is not unclean, provided that it is not itself a forbidden animal (Moháammad b. H®osayn T®u@s^, VI, pp. 256-62; Meybod^, III, p. 32; ¿Al^ Qom^, I, pp. 162-63; Kolayn^, VI, pp. 202-04, 207; Ebn Taym^ya, p. 325). There are, however, some qualifications in Sunni law books regarding the use of hunting dogs trained by non-Muslims. In one tradition, disallowed by some authorities, it is alleged that the Prophet Moháammad forbade the flesh of game brought down by a hunting dog trained by Zoroastrians (Alba@n^, p. 170). Shi¿ite legal authorities hold, however, that, if the hunter himself is Muslim, it does not matter who trained the dog (Moháammad b. H®osayn T®u@s^, VI, p. 262). There is some doubt about the permissibility of the flesh of game brought down by a black dog (Kolayn^, VI, p. 206), which may reflect a general Near Eastern association of the black dog with the devil (cf. Thompson, motifs G303.6.1.6, G303.3.3.3.11; Woods, s.vv. dog, black dog; see below).
THIS PAGE ONE CANNOT COPY/PASTE - SO I WILL DIRECT YOU - READ WHERE IT SAYS:
PETER WELLS FROM ENGLAND WRITES IN HIS "BREED NOTES", FIRST PUBLISHED IN "OUR DOGS"(July 2, 1999)
HE HAS USED VERY SMALL WRITTING - CAN YOUR EYES READ WAT IT SAYS THERE??? HE COUNTERS TURKISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE DOGS AND SAYS CA: WE HAVE TO CALL IT "ANATOLIAN SHEPHERD DOG" BECAUSE THE KURDS HAVE ALSO MADE CLAIMS TO THE DOGS - AND IT IS MORE LIKELY THAT THE DOG IS KURDISH THAN TURKISH...
http://www.surfnet.fi/~kiramet/battlefield.htmlAND go to THIS link and LOOK AT THE MAP - WHERE YOU CLEARLY SEE THAT THEY HAVE MARKED ALL OF KURDISTAN AS "AREAS WHERE THE KANGAL LIVES"... Here is an extract if you find that hard to do:
Bijan Eliasi, an Iranian Kurd and a researcher of "Gammal dogs" have seen these dogs, personally, from Kermanshah all the way to Rezaieh, just about everywhere in Kurdistan of Iran. Kurdish people beleive that Kangal dog is a native breed from the Kangal town (about 80 km south of Sivas) in northwest Kurdistan in Turkey and this breed of dog has been living among the Kurds for thousands of years. The Kurdish name on the breed is Gammal.
BEXIK WROTE:
I am gonna laugh for hourse because of your stupid remark - it just showes that you DIDN'T READ THE TEXT THOUROUGH ENOUGH... THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "KURDISH WAR DOG" - and you say that this is a "KANGAL" the lady is talking about - WOW that was very revealing... you ATATGÛ LOVER!
IF YOU HAD ONE THRID OF THSOE BRAINCELLES YOU SPEAK ABOUT THEN YOU COULD HAVE READ HERE IN THIS TOPIC THAT I HAVE HAD MANY DOGS WHEN I WAS A CHILD - AND I CUDDLED AND HUGGED THEM AND I LOVED THEM - I HAV EPICTURES OF THEM AND ME TOGETHER - YOU WANNA GVIE ME YOUR ADRESS SO I CAN SEND COPIES??? OR MAYBE I CAN COME MYSELF AND TEACH YOU A THING OR TWO? I'LL BRING THE PICTURES AND A BOTTLE OF WHITE WINE WE CAN DRINK WHILE DISCUSSING
AND JUST TO SHOW WHAT A PITTYFULL PERSON YOU ARE I HAVE QUOTED ALL THE NON SENSE YOU WROTE:
I KNOW better than you because I've usually "been there, done that".
My family owns several Kangal dogs. How many Kangal dogs does your family own?
- Who did you say was a CHILD???
This is a typical baby boy mentality.
So owning a DOG, taking care of and breeding an animal like the Kangal dog in Kurdistan is a matter of RELIGION and NOT nationality. But WOULD YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? No, because you know jack sh*t about Kurds or Kurdistan.
I think the rest of the members will laugh you up your face too - just ask people if they "didn't have a dog because they are muslim" - I am muslim and we HAD and now my uncles fam. HAS them...
In Kurdistan, Muslim Kurds say "Yezidis love their dogs" and they don't say this as a compliment. Did you know this too?
WOW - first of all that IS SO rude - DO YOU REALY FEEL THAT WAY ABOUT YEZIDÎ KURDS? And second - wow - how separatist of you:
Stop doing SEPARATISM among Kurds and I will let you keep your honour
And with this I leave youe noble ass - defeated you can sit and whine...
One comment (with no relation to the topic) and woops you are gone again... 
