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Turkey university begins country's first Kurdish course

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:19 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15341340
Turkish university has begun teaching the country's first ever degree course in the Kurdish language.

About 20 students have signed up to study Kurdish at Artuklu University in south-eastern city of Mardin.

The government in Ankara started easing restrictions on the use of Kurdish in 2009 as part of its efforts to join the European Union.

Kurds make up around a fifth of Turkey's population and have for years been pressing for greater rights.

The new undergraduate course will last four years and will cover both Kurdish language and literature.

The head of the new programme at Artuklu University, Professor Kadri Yildirim, told the Hurriyet newspaper: "This city is the centre of upper Mesopotamia and Kurdish culture is a major part of this.

"As other universities start opening Kurdish language classes and once Kurdish is used in the primary education system, this department will become more popular."

Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party announced a series of initiatives to improve the rights of Kurds three years ago, but has since been criticised for dragging its feet.

Violence by Kurdish separatists has continued and Turkish nationalists have objected to attempts to reach out to the Kurds.

Tens of thousands of lives have been lost during three decades of fighting between Kurdish rebels and the security forces.

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Re: Turkey university begins country's first Kurdish course

PostAuthor: talsor » Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:31 pm

They have Japanese , chines courses . Are we suppose to be greatful here :shock: ?? what a pathetic country .
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Re: Turkey university begins country's first Kurdish course

PostAuthor: Kulka » Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:34 pm

"After years of efforts, a number of rejections and strong debates, Turkey’s first undergraduate-level Kurdish language and literature department is welcoming students for its first class today in the southeastern province Mardin’s Artuklu University.

The beginning of the first undergraduate-level Kurdish program, which many consider a positive development, comes at a time of recent tension over discussions on Turkey’s new constitution, which are about to commence between the ruling and oppositional parties, including the Peace and Democracy Party (BDP), which is primarily focused on the Kurdish issue.

While tension among the delegates is expected to rise especially on the first three articles, which discuss “the characteristics of the Republic,” an academic move to officially integrate Kurdish culture into Turkey’s education system is already regarded as a sign of development.

“When we established the School of Eastern Languages, I had planned to set up a Kurdish Language and Literature Department and kept re-applying to YÖK [Higher Education Board]. This city is the center of upper Mesopotamia, and Kurdish [culture] is a major part of this,” Artuklu University Rector Serdar Bedii Omay said.

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Twenty-one students have enrolled in the four-year undergraduate program, which was established at the School of Eastern Languages and Literatures.

As the academic season starts, department head Professor Kadri Yıldırım said there had been a considerable number of applications from students who have shown interest in the program. Many of them, however, are concerned about what will happen once they graduate.

“Students who have applied to the program are all keen on studying Kurdish, yet they have questions on how they will find employment opportunities,” Yıldırım said.

Yıldırım said the students would likely be able to get jobs with the university as it offers Kurdish as an elective class to all students.

“There will not be any problems in employing the first-year graduates, and I also think that as other universities start opening Kurdish-language classes and once Kurdish is used in the primary education system, this department will become more popular,” Yıldırım added.

Indeed, several other universities in the eastern region of Turkey such as Hakkari, Muş, Tunceli and Bingöl have also started offering Kurdish-language classes in recent years. Istanbul’s Bilgi University has offered a Kurdish course since 2009 as well.

Classes such as this one are part of a wider debate in Turkey – a country in which the Constitution decrees that only Turkish is permitted as a language for primary education. But members of other ethnic groups, especially Kurds, have been increasingly challenging this law, demanding that their native tongues also become a language of instruction.

Artuklu University founded the first Kurdish department offering post-graduate work in 2009 as part of the Living Languages Institute.


Lack of textbooks

In the first year of Kurdish education, students will take a grammar course, a Kurdish folk literature, history of the Kurdish language and a course on Kurdish poetry. Four of the five faculty members in the program will teach the Kurmanji dialect, which is the most widely spoken Kurdish dialect in Turkey; one professor will teach Zazaki.

Still, Yıldırım said the department lacked the necessary textbooks for the classes. “We are preparing our own books. We finished the grammar and folklore books, and for others we will go through our class notes,” he said."

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Re: Turkey university begins country's first Kurdish course

PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:49 pm

tragicomic. arabic, chinese, german, russian are allowed in "highschools" there.

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Re: Turkey university begins country's first Kurdish course

PostAuthor: thearabchildren » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:43 pm

talsor wrote:They have Japanese , chines courses . Are we suppose to be greatful here :shock: ?? what a pathetic country .


Not only do they have Japanese and Chinese courses, but they have English courses in high schools. Also, the constitution (the same constitution which still refers to Atatürk in the preamble as an "immortal leader" and an "unparalleled hero") decrees that no Turkish citizen (it defines all Turkish citizens as Turks, so when reading it you will notice a ridiculous flip-flopping on that point) shall be educated in any language but Turkish. And Kurdish STILL is not taught as a voluntary subject at the primary school level, although some other minorities (Arabs, Armenians, Greeks, Jews) can take classes at that level in their mother tongues (all for religious reasons, so it is a coincidence that an ethnic minority [Arabs] has this privelege, as they would be attending the same classes as Turks and Kurds would for "their" book [non-Muslim Arabs would of course not be able to receive a secular education in Arabic at such an early stage, at least not without receiving that education from a Muslim cleric whose first language was Turkish and who would use the language only for reading Qur'an]). Thus the state still does not acknowledge that they are educating anyone in their mother tongue except Turks, since at state schools Arabs are all still Turks (something they can be punished for not being proud of) and thus must be educated in Turkish, only learning other languages as a second language, even if it is actually their first.

Just try to go teach Kurdish grammar in a primary school in Amed, see how far you get. This is the "Kürt açılımı" the AKP gives us. Doesn't feel that "açık" to me.
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Re: Turkey university begins country's first Kurdish course

PostAuthor: Kulka » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:49 am

Turkish language should be banned on our forum.

And i have a question to thearabchildren - are you a member of any turkish forum?
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Re: Turkey university begins country's first Kurdish course

PostAuthor: thearabchildren » Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:32 pm

I used to say something similar, that French should be banned in Turkey as punishment to certain arrogant Turks I meet who think it's so cute that they speak fluent French and complain that they have to pay to educate their children in French but think a total ban on all things Kurdish is acceptable and normal. But we shouldn't ban anything.

Also, if you're referring to my use of "Kürt açılımı" and "açık": "Kurdish opening" and "open".

I am not presently a member of any other forum. Why?
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Re: Turkey university begins country's first Kurdish course

PostAuthor: Kulka » Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:15 am

i asked if you are a member of turkish forum to ask you if you would be so free to post there in kurdish, like you post freely in turkish on kurdish forum - nothing else.
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Re: Turkey university begins country's first Kurdish course

PostAuthor: talsor » Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:23 am

Kulka wrote:Turkish language should be banned on our forum.

And i have a question to thearabchildren - are you a member of any turkish forum?



Quoting in Turkish is fine as long as a translation provided , but simply writing in Turkish defy the purpose of discussion because no understand it except few individuals .
A total ban on turkish ? No , it will make me feel turkish :D , .
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Re: Turkey university begins country's first Kurdish course

PostAuthor: Kulka » Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:25 am

talsor wrote:
Kulka wrote:Turkish language should be banned on our forum.

And i have a question to thearabchildren - are you a member of any turkish forum?



Quoting in Turkish is fine as long as a translation provided , but simply writing in Turkish defy the purpose of discussion because no understand it except few individuals .
A total ban on turkish ? No , it will make me feel turkish :D , .


:lol: you always know how to make me laughing
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Re: Turkey university begins country's first Kurdish course

PostAuthor: talsor » Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:41 am

Kulka wrote:
talsor wrote:
Kulka wrote:Turkish language should be banned on our forum.

And i have a question to thearabchildren - are you a member of any turkish forum?



Quoting in Turkish is fine as long as a translation provided , but simply writing in Turkish defy the purpose of discussion because no understand it except few individuals .
A total ban on turkish ? No , it will make me feel turkish :D , .


:lol: you always know how to make me laughing


It should be added to the dictionary " Feeling turkish " :lol:
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Re: Turkey university begins country's first Kurdish course

PostAuthor: Kulka » Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:42 am

:lol: you are crazy :lol:
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Re: Turkey university begins country's first Kurdish course

PostAuthor: talsor » Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:01 am

Kulka wrote::lol: you are crazy :lol:


here is a good one about "feeling turkish"

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Re: Turkey university begins country's first Kurdish course

PostAuthor: thearabchildren » Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:16 am

Kulka wrote:i asked if you are a member of turkish forum to ask you if you would be so free to post there in kurdish, like you post freely in turkish on kurdish forum - nothing else.


I hope you won't stoop to the level of the Kemalists, but when I was on a Turkish forum, I did post in Kurdish when I was able to muster the vocabulary (my Kurdish is quite poor as everyone here knows), and some people insulted me for it, because they were pricks. I have never been banned from anywhere for speaking Kurdish, which is not to say that it couldn't happen.
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Re: Turkey university begins country's first Kurdish course

PostAuthor: Kulka » Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:29 am

Heval talsor - the first one is the best :lol:
But if these poor animals know we use them like that they will not be happy.... Coz they can easy say to turks :ne mutlu animalum diyene :lol: - proud, who can call himself animal (and dont have to be turk)
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