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PostAuthor: thearabchildren » Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:59 pm

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Re: Syria

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:30 pm

Don't understand it.
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Re: Syria

PostAuthor: talsor » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:16 am

Syrian Arabs are no different than Iraqi Arabs if not worst . There is a false notion that Kurds would easily get their rights in Western Kurdistan after the fall of Regime . but I believe Western Kurdistan have a long road a head of them and unless they are supported by KRG and organized by/like PKK they will not get any where in the near future .
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Re: Syria

PostAuthor: thearabchildren » Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:12 am

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Re: Syria

PostAuthor: New Corduene » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:13 pm

Interesting article I had missed. I think he apologized after his fiery comments on DW.

KURDS ARE GENUINE MIGRANTS
http://www.mesop.de/2011/10/29/kurds-are-genuin-migrants-kurden-sind-wie-geborene-immigranten/

Syria National Council leader Burhan Gallioun talks to German TV about Kurds:

There was exaggeration by some of the Kurdish brothers who raised the idea that it should be the Syrian Republic rather than the Syrian Arab Republic, but … of course, Syria is an Arab state .. there is no discussion about this .. there is no debate that Syria is an Arab country because the majority of the population are Arabs … because participation in the history, culture and geography does not mean denying the existence of groups and clusters of other nations, and speaking other languages, just as we say France is France, but of course there are Muslims and immigrants from Asian countries. The discussion is not about the identity for Syria. Kurds … you cannot tell the Syrian Arabs that you are not Arabs … is that OK? Here is the wall.“
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Re: Syria

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:32 pm

talsor wrote:Syrian Arabs are no different than Iraqi Arabs if not worst . There is a false notion that Kurds would easily get their rights in Western Kurdistan after the fall of Regime . but I believe Western Kurdistan have a long road a head of them and unless they are supported by KRG and organized by/like PKK they will not get any where in the near future .


Theres no way that a new syrian regime will challenge western kurds.
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Re: Syria

PostAuthor: talsor » Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:08 pm

jjmuneer wrote:
talsor wrote:Syrian Arabs are no different than Iraqi Arabs if not worst . There is a false notion that Kurds would easily get their rights in Western Kurdistan after the fall of Regime . but I believe Western Kurdistan have a long road a head of them and unless they are supported by KRG and organized by/like PKK they will not get any where in the near future .


Theres no way that a new syrian regime will challenge western kurds.


challenge ? Heval they are not even giving any consideration to Kurds otherwise Kurds would have been part of the so called Syrian opposition with goals that every agree on . In a way I'm glad this is happening , because being ignored is certainly better than being absorbed and Kurds would not get their massage lost in mid of chaos .
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Re: Syria

PostAuthor: Kurdistano » Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:44 pm

talsor wrote:
jjmuneer wrote:
talsor wrote:Syrian Arabs are no different than Iraqi Arabs if not worst . There is a false notion that Kurds would easily get their rights in Western Kurdistan after the fall of Regime . but I believe Western Kurdistan have a long road a head of them and unless they are supported by KRG and organized by/like PKK they will not get any where in the near future .


Theres no way that a new syrian regime will challenge western kurds.


challenge ? Heval they are not even giving any consideration to Kurds otherwise Kurds would have been part of the so called Syrian opposition with goals that every agree on . In a way I'm glad this is happening , because being ignored is certainly better than being absorbed and Kurds would not get their massage lost in mid of chaos .



Kurds should not take arms against assad. First Turkey kills the Kurdish leader Tammo to get kurds into this war and now we should fight for their goals? Better try to come to a agreement and let him deal with those radical prigs.

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Re: Syria

PostAuthor: talsor » Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:27 pm

Kurdistano wrote:
Kurds should not take arms against assad. First Turkey kills the Kurdish leader Tammo to get kurds into this war and now we should fight for their goals? Better try to come to a agreement and let him deal with those radical prigs.


agreed

Kurds have always been used to fight the arab and turkish dirty wars with nothing to show at the end . Asad is the Syrian arab problem and they should deal with him themselves .Kurd should never be dragged to this war and they should never make a single sacrifice to topple the regime unless there is a serious offer on the table by the arabs which is not happening and will never happen .

Coordinating with PKK/PJAK and KRG is their only hope for a settlement once the dust settles , othere wise their fate will be no differnt than the fate of lebanies kurds .

As for Asad issuing a decree and granting Syrian Kurds the citizenship , he can take it and shoved it where the sun doe not shine .
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Re: Syria

PostAuthor: Kurdistano » Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:46 pm

talsor wrote:
Kurdistano wrote:
Kurds should not take arms against assad. First Turkey kills the Kurdish leader Tammo to get kurds into this war and now we should fight for their goals? Better try to come to a agreement and let him deal with those radical prigs.


agreed

Kurds have always been used to fight the arab and turkish dirty wars with nothing to show at the end . Asad is the Syrian arab problem and they should deal with him themselves .Kurd should never be dragged to this war and they should never make a single sacrifice to topple the regime unless there is a serious offer on the table by the arabs which is not happening and will never happen .

Coordinating with PKK/PJAK and KRG is their only hope for a settlement once the dust settles , othere wise their fate will be no differnt than the fate of lebanies kurds .

As for Asad issuing a decree and granting Syrian Kurds the citizenship , he can take it and shoved it where the sun doe not shine .


Barzani should get in contact with Assad. I think he had to make some offers. He could even come to an agreement maybe about autonomy for Kurds.

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Re: Syria

PostAuthor: thearabchildren » Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:09 pm

Kurdistano wrote:Barzani should get in contact with Assad. I think he had to make some offers. He could even come to an agreement maybe about autonomy for Kurds.


But Assad is going to be overthrown, and if Barzanî makes an offer, the new Syrian regime (whether it's Muslim Brotherhood, SSNP, Socialists of some sort, it does not actually matter) will then accuse "the Kurds" of collaboration with the Assad regime no matter what Assad has done to the Kurdish people before one Kurdish leader's offer. Barzanî should keep his distance, and even opponents of Barzanî should encourage this if they care about the well-being of Syrian Kurds (again, even assuming the worst from whatever replaces Assad, it will be worse if they can "prove" an `Alawi-Kurdish conspiracy of some sort).
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Re: Syria

PostAuthor: talsor » Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:24 pm

Barzani was actually invited to visit Syria just last month , the he rejected for obvious reasons .

http://www.kurdiu.org/en/hawal/?pageid=88492
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Re: Syria

PostAuthor: thearabchildren » Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:31 pm

A reasonable and wise move.
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Re: Syria

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:29 am

i think the Western Kurds should make it clear that they want autonomy from now , since now this opposition leader is saying syria is part of the arab nation , it means denying kurdish existence once more , KRG should take this into careful consideration and help them in every aspect , and by the end of the day Western Kurdistan is linked to KRG from Zakho .
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