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Peshmerga Minister "handing over heavy weapons is a dream"

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Wed May 02, 2012 11:39 am

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Peshmerga Minister, Shek Ja'far, calls on any request from Baghdad to hand them over heavy weaponry, a "dream", and says that yet a lot issues remain unsolved.

Shek Ja'ar told the Kurdish agency (Sbeiy): "if Iraqi Govt , officially make such requests, it will just be ignored, because a lot of issues remain outstanding between us".

"we use those heavy weaponries to protect the people of Kurdistan , and even if they asked formally , we will just ignore it". he added.

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Re: Peshmerga

PostAuthor: sheytanElKebir » Wed May 02, 2012 2:41 pm

The Mi8 helicopter picture you posted is

a Mi-8MTV1 type.
It was built in 1983 in Kazan Soviet Union
Then operated in the 1990s by Ukrainian Cargo Airways
It was owned second hand by Scorpion Air Ltd in 2001 in Madrid Spain
Then bought by Skylink Aviation in 2003
In 2004 Valan international cargo charter (Moldovan company) bought it from skylink. (I think during this period it operated in Kurdistan as a charter helicopter)
In 2007 it was used by AMIS (African Union Mission In Sudan)
In 2008 it returned to Valan International Cargo Charter in Moldova.

By this time its been operating for 25 years. I am not sure if its still certified air worty any more. This is the last picture for this helicopter.
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Re: Peshmerga Minister "handing over heavy weapons is a drea

PostAuthor: Azad1 » Wed May 02, 2012 5:08 pm

alan131210 wrote:Image

02/05/2012

Peshmerga Minister, Shek Ja'far, calls on any request from Baghdad to hand them over heavy weaponry, a "dream", and says that yet a lot issues remain unsolved.

Shek Ja'ar told the Kurdish agency (Sbeiy): "if Iraqi Govt , officially make such requests, it will just be ignored, because a lot of issues remain outstanding between us".

"we use those heavy weaponries to protect the people of Kurdistan , and even if they asked formally , we will just ignore it". he added.

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Hello

What weapons does the KRG possess, which may be a 'threat to Iraq' ?

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Re: Peshmerga

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Wed May 02, 2012 6:42 pm

sheytanElKebir wrote:The Mi8 helicopter picture you posted is

a Mi-8MTV1 type.
It was built in 1983 in Kazan Soviet Union
Then operated in the 1990s by Ukrainian Cargo Airways
It was owned second hand by Scorpion Air Ltd in 2001 in Madrid Spain
Then bought by Skylink Aviation in 2003
In 2004 Valan international cargo charter (Moldovan company) bought it from skylink. (I think during this period it operated in Kurdistan as a charter helicopter)
In 2007 it was used by AMIS (African Union Mission In Sudan)
In 2008 it returned to Valan International Cargo Charter in Moldova.

By this time its been operating for 25 years. I am not sure if its still certified air worty



thanks for that , my point was Peshemrga uses lots of stuff we do not know about . and this one you posted looks rather in bad shape as compared to the one Peshemrga is using which seems to be restored and probably upgraded.
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For the first time live ammunition used in training

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Wed May 02, 2012 7:29 pm

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KIRKUK - With the presence of Major General Jamal Mohammad Omar, Chief of Staff and Major General Baram Saeed, deputy chief of staff for military operations and officials training courses military , Dean of the Faculty Staff Faculty Qalachualan military , representatives of the Faculty of Zakho , military leaders of infantry brigades military of the Ministry of Peshmerga and a large group of senior officers, a special training session started under the title "speed attack and priority in the secret role model" for a battalion of Peshemrga unit.

Members of the Peshmerga Brigade of the Fourth Regiment, First Infantry Peshmerga military, and first Chief of Staff, gave a speech and praised the need to start similar courses for military units to raise the level of the Peshmerga in the military during the attacks and destruction of the front rows of the enemy.

He also thanked the chief of staff, officials and teachers training in the special session and also confirmed that in the near future they will be working under similar projects in other areas of the region of Kurdistan to the regimental level.

On the other hand, saeed Maj. Gen. Jamal Mohammad Omar announced that "For the first time we use live bullets and ammunition in military exercises, in order to have complete control of the cadres of the Peshmerga in the areas of fighting and very important for the cases of the moral and tactical terms generates experience of staff involved in the session, in order to facilitate their difficulties. "

And Chief of Staff, also added saying "in the near future there will be the addition of these courses and other possibilities to the curriculum and tactical training for the rehabilitation of cadres of the Peshmerga and the wider involvement in all courses listed in this form which are classified between the capabilities of members of the Peshmerga in the military aspects.

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Re: Peshmerga

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Wed May 02, 2012 7:30 pm

Barzani has met with the UAE Chief commander of armed forces , does anyone has any more info ?
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Re: Peshmerga

PostAuthor: diako_ber » Wed May 02, 2012 7:37 pm

Couldn't find any more information
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Re: Peshmerga

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Wed May 02, 2012 7:41 pm

diako_ber wrote:Couldn't find any more information


found it , but no details of the meeting except the decision of Emirate airline starting its flight service to Erbil , just use Google translate .

http://www.krp.org/arabic/articledispla ... 1&id=26085

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Re: Peshmerga

PostAuthor: sheytanElKebir » Wed May 02, 2012 7:58 pm

alan131210 wrote:

thanks for that , my point was Peshemrga uses lots of stuff we do not know about . and this one you posted looks rather in bad shape as compared to the one Peshemrga is using which seems to be restored and probably upgraded.


you misunderstood me, This is the EXACT same helicopter (serial ER-MGH)

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Re: Peshmerga

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Wed May 02, 2012 8:04 pm

sheytanElKebir wrote:
alan131210 wrote:

thanks for that , my point was Peshemrga uses lots of stuff we do not know about . and this one you posted looks rather in bad shape as compared to the one Peshemrga is using which seems to be restored and probably upgraded.


you misunderstood me, This is the EXACT same helicopter (serial ER-MGH)


same yes but looks newer than the ones you posted , maybe just paint work , or updated engine , who knows.
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Re: Peshmerga

PostAuthor: Azad1 » Wed May 02, 2012 8:42 pm

alan131210 wrote:this iraqi heli came to Sulaimani today , you guys should read the comments on fb , i would like to use one "oh it was so loud man that thing was old , i could have dropped it with a sling shot" :lol: :lol: :lol:
it was carrying Allawi , he went to see Goran leader today

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I don't think the helicopter is carrying allawi.

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Re: Peshmerga

PostAuthor: diako_ber » Wed May 02, 2012 10:14 pm

alan131210 wrote:
diako_ber wrote:Couldn't find any more information


found it , but no details of the meeting except the decision of Emirate airline starting its flight service to Erbil , just use Google translate .

http://www.krp.org/arabic/articledispla ... 1&id=26085

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Yes, hehehehe :)

But I'm glad emirates airlines is starting its flight service to erbil, we need more of those international airlines :)
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Re: Peshmerga

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Wed May 02, 2012 11:00 pm

Azad1 wrote:
alan131210 wrote:this iraqi heli came to Sulaimani today , you guys should read the comments on fb , i would like to use one "oh it was so loud man that thing was old , i could have dropped it with a sling shot" :lol: :lol: :lol:
it was carrying Allawi , he went to see Goran leader today

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I don't think the helicopter is carrying allawi.


Well that day he visited gorran leader so assumed it would be him , who do you think it was carrying then ?
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Re: Peshmerga Minister "handing over heavy weapons is a drea

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Wed May 02, 2012 11:02 pm

Azad1 wrote:Hello

What weapons does the KRG possess, which may be a 'threat to Iraq' ?


Apparently some war planes :lol: . It's all BS propaganda due to the crisis between Erbil and Baghdad .
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Re: Peshmerga

PostAuthor: Azad1 » Wed May 02, 2012 11:13 pm

alan131210 wrote:
Azad1 wrote:
alan131210 wrote:this iraqi heli came to Sulaimani today , you guys should read the comments on fb , i would like to use one "oh it was so loud man that thing was old , i could have dropped it with a sling shot" :lol: :lol: :lol:
it was carrying Allawi , he went to see Goran leader today

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http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=376011179107269&set=a.149083931799996.23267.149077461800643&type=3&theater


I don't think the helicopter is carrying allawi.


Well that day he visited gorran leader so assumed it would be him , who do you think it was carrying then ?


KRG sometime request helicopters from Baghdad for security motives, especially when there's foreign press or VIP's visiting.

High Kuwaiti delegation visited Iraq's president in Sulymania, I assume this is the reason for the helicopter.

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