Peshmerga

[alan131210]

No Talabani no longer resides in Suli , his HQ has moved to the capital Erbil and that particular day he was in capital as well , it was the day allawi visited Nawshirwan so has to be his.

[alan131210]

[alan131210]

05/05/2012

Spokesman of the leadership of the Peshmerga forces «Guard Region» that the Peshmerga forces seized heavy weapons left by the Corps (I, II and V) Iraqi military deployed near the areas adjacent to the Kurdistan Region, for fear of falling in the hands of terrorists, has been repairing some of them and use them in military operations carried out by Peshmerga forces against the terrorist forces, as opposed to the Iraqi government, which sold what was left of the former regime weapons to scrap, referring to "that there is no constitutional provision to prevent Kurdistan from acquiring heavy weapons".

Major General Jabbar Yawar said in remarks specific to the «Middle East»: "The Government of the Territory signed a memorandum of understanding with the Iraqi government an eight-point, concerning the organization of the relationship between the Peshmerga and the Iraqi army across the Ministries of Peshmerga and the defense, and determined note the definition of the Peshmerga forces and functions, property and quality of weapons that include tanks, armored vehicles, military vehicles and helicopters, with the exception of combat aircraft that we do not have, in fact, also identifies that coordination of joint operations between the army and the Peshmerga in the face of terrorist forces inside Iraq, but the Iraqi government went back on the implementation of the memorandum that we signed in 2007 which contributed to the complexity of the crisis in the relationship between the KRG and the Centre with regard to the Peshmerga forces, which became part of the outstanding differences between Erbil and Baghdad ".

General Yawar emphasizes "The Iraqi Constitution provides for the right region to form a police and security forces and the Peshmerga of its own, and that the memorandum of understanding referred to provided in one of the main points of the processing of the Peshmerga forces with weapons, and have a stake in the budget to supply Peshmerga with modern weapons, but those memorandum had not been implemented despite the fact that the Prime Minister, Nuri al-Maliki, has signed the order to form a committee headed by former adviser, Al-Rubaie, to implement them, but without result so far ". He added saying : "we are based in the process of reinforcing the experience of the many Federal countries, including the experience of the United States that allow states and territories to have heavy weapons, but we have not got yet any share to us from the Iraqi modern weapons, although there is agreement on the annexation of the Peshmerga forces to the Iraqi defense system, but nevertheless some officials in the Iraqi government accuse us of having captured old weapons from the former regime, which we use against the terrorists who threaten the security and stability of Iraq, while the Iraqi government sold the weapons captured to scrap".

Peshmerga spokesman called the Iraqi government to allocate a share of modern weapons supplied to Iraq for the Peshmerga forces, and said: "We will not hand over our weapons to the Iraqi government unless they provide our share of new weapons, which has contracted or will contract in the future to arm the Iraqi army".

Peshmerge

[alan131210]

"The Government of the Territory signed a memorandum of understanding with the Iraqi government an eight-point, concerning the organization of the relationship between the Peshmerga and the Iraqi army across the Ministries of Peshmerga and the defense, and determined note the definition of the Peshmerga forces and functions, property and quality of weapons that include tanks, armored vehicles, military vehicles and helicopters

so they can basically buy and possess any kind of weapons except jets ! and they told iraq , unless you share with us the new weapons , do not ask us for the old ones which you have sold to the scrape metal , while we have gone and restored them ourselves without your help.

[alan131210]

02/05/2012

Warned the political council of the Arab in Kirkuk, the risk of the presence of heavy weapons in the Peshmerga forces and called for withdrawing the protection of civil peace in the city.

The council said in a press statement: "The Arabs and many of the components of Kirkuk had previously demanded that the occupation forces after 2003 to collect weapons, the Iraqi army, and in particular weapons legions first, second and fifth, which was collected and acquired by the Peshmerga, as this has a negative impact on security and stability and civil peace. "

The statement added: "These appeals fell on deaf ears, not by the occupation forces nor by the successive governments. "
He disclosed that these weapons have been used in the district of Khanaqin in Diyala province, as well as to encircle the city of Kirkuk, with tanks and artillery, a day after February 25, 2011, calling on the confiscation of these weapons by the central government.

http://www.alnaspaper.com/inp/view.asp?ID=9578

[alan131210]

^^ lol instead of demanding for such ridiculous requests which will be ignored , why not start preparing for your Kurdistani citizenship .

sorry man you are a minority and in the "current" world the majority calls the shots , so either referendum or force , kurds have the upper hand in the Province , except al Hawija of course.

Peshmerga will never ever leave the city of Kirkuk and no one can make her to , unless of course some super power like US invades iraq again and urged them to do so like they did in 2003 , but not going to happen this time round sorry fellas .

i saw an interview on GKTV last night with a Peshmerga commander , confirming Peshmerga's ability to respond to any threats from the iraqi army , adding that what iraq has we have too except the jets , but he said , its up to the leaders of Kurdistan to proclaim the state before iraq gets the jets so then we too can go and buy some advanced jets .

i was very glad to hear this , it shows our boys are preparing for what is coming.

[sheytanElKebir]

A future Kurdish air force. my idea.


The future air force of Kurdistan has to operate within the constraints of its geography, limited technical capabilities and the need for rapidly building up capability.

I would suggest that the Kurdish airforce would consist of the Following.

1st Fighter Squadron - SU-35MK "premier" fighter squadron operating out of a new small airfield in bradost mountain or its environs with the airfield being carved out of the mountains and 80% of the runway inside the mountain.

2nd Fighter Squadron - JF17 fighter / attack aircraft operating out of Erbil International Airport (but during war time operating out of dispersal sites)

3rd Fighter Squadron - JF17 Fighter / Attack aircraft operating out of Sulaymania international airport (but during war time operating out of dispersal sites)

4th Attack Squadron - SU25/39 type aircraft operating out of Erbil International Airport (but during wartime operating out of dispersal sites)

5th Light Attack and Air Reconnaissance squadron - operating S-314 Super Tucanos operating out of Sulaymania International Airport (but during war time operating out of dispersal fields)

6th - Composite Transport Squadron - operating 6x C-130J aircraft and 6xC-295 transport aircraft out of Erbil International Airport.

7th - Electronic Warfare squadron - operating a mix of ISR, ELINT and AEW aircraft.

8th - Advanced Training Squadron - with M346 Aircraft out of Sulaymania Airport "Kurdistan Air Academy"

9th - Intermediate training squadron - with S312 Tucanos out of Sulaymania Airport "Kurdistan Air Academy"

10th - Basic training squadron - with Cessnas and light aircraft out of Sulaymania Airport "Kurdistan Air Academy"

11th - SAR and VIP squadron - with Transport helicopters (EC-225s, EH-101s etc...) Out of Erbil International Airport with SAR detachments at each Air Base.


In order to build a force sufficient to defend Kurdistan, I had to sacrifice a few things:
-No "very expensive" aircraft for most squadrons.
-No large number of expensive air bases

But without sacrificing capability.

The aircraft (like JF17) although they are not as shiny as a F/A18 or F15, they can Carry SD-10A air to air missiles which are equivelant to an AIM-120C5 standard missile. So they can "match" anything in the Turkish, Iranian or Iraqi arsenal.

The JF17s can operate from dispersal fields unlike US aircraft. For Kurdistan this means that Having 2 "Main Operating Bases" (Erbil and Sulaymania) which have already been paid for.

Saving that money - Kurdistan can build one small "superbase" for its "premier" squadron, carved out of the mountain - and furthest away from all bordering states (to give them some time to alert and take off in case of air attack.


will continue later!

[Rando]

A future Kurdish air force. my idea.


The future air force of Kurdistan has to operate within the constraints of its geography, limited technical capabilities and the need for rapidly building up capability.

I would suggest that the Kurdish airforce would consist of the Following.

1st Fighter Squadron - SU-35MK "premier" fighter squadron operating out of a new small airfield in bradost mountain or its environs with the airfield being carved out of the mountains and 80% of the runway inside the mountain.

2nd Fighter Squadron - JF17 fighter / attack aircraft operating out of Erbil International Airport (but during war time operating out of dispersal sites)

3rd Fighter Squadron - JF17 Fighter / Attack aircraft operating out of Sulaymania international airport (but during war time operating out of dispersal sites)

4th Attack Squadron - SU25/39 type aircraft operating out of Erbil International Airport (but during wartime operating out of dispersal sites)

5th Light Attack and Air Reconnaissance squadron - operating S-314 Super Tucanos operating out of Sulaymania International Airport (but during war time operating out of dispersal fields)

6th - Composite Transport Squadron - operating 6x C-130J aircraft and 6xC-295 transport aircraft out of Erbil International Airport.

7th - Electronic Warfare squadron - operating a mix of ISR, ELINT and AEW aircraft.

8th - Advanced Training Squadron - with M346 Aircraft out of Sulaymania Airport "Kurdistan Air Academy"

9th - Intermediate training squadron - with S312 Tucanos out of Sulaymania Airport "Kurdistan Air Academy"

10th - Basic training squadron - with Cessnas and light aircraft out of Sulaymania Airport "Kurdistan Air Academy"

11th - SAR and VIP squadron - with Transport helicopters (EC-225s, EH-101s etc...) Out of Erbil International Airport with SAR detachments at each Air Base.


In order to build a force sufficient to defend Kurdistan, I had to sacrifice a few things:
-No "very expensive" aircraft for most squadrons.
-No large number of expensive air bases

But without sacrificing capability.

The aircraft (like JF17) although they are not as shiny as a F/A18 or F15, they can Carry SD-10A air to air missiles which are equivelant to an AIM-120C5 standard missile. So they can "match" anything in the Turkish, Iranian or Iraqi arsenal.

The JF17s can operate from dispersal fields unlike US aircraft. For Kurdistan this means that Having 2 "Main Operating Bases" (Erbil and Sulaymania) which have already been paid for.

Saving that money - Kurdistan can build one small "superbase" for its "premier" squadron, carved out of the mountain - and furthest away from all bordering states (to give them some time to alert and take off in case of air attack.


will continue later!

how many fighters/planes should 1 squadron be?
and what is your tought on J-11?
btw,thanks for using your time to write such a long comment.i apreciate it.

[alan131210]

i have let the ministry of Peshmerge know about this thread via an email , although i know they regularly see experts and send out delegations to gather info , but having an extra idea from our members here would not hurt .


JF17
Missiles:

Air-to-air missiles:
Short range: AIM-9L/M, PL-5E, PL-9C
Beyond visual range: PL-12 / SD-10
Air-to-surface missiles:
Anti-radiation missiles : MAR-1[93]
Anti-ship missiles: C-802A,[73] C-803
Cruise missiles: Ra'ad ALCM

Bombs:

Unguided bombs:
Mk-82, Mk-84 general purpose bombs
Matra Durandal anti-runway bomb
CBU-100/Mk-20 Rockeye anti-armour cluster bomb
Precision guided munitions (PGM):
GBU-10, GBU-12, LT-2 laser-guided bombs
H-2, H-4 electro-optically guided,[3] LS-6 satellite-guided glide bombs[136]
Satellite-guided bombs[3]

JF-17 on display at the Farnborough Air Show 2010 with a range of weaponry and equipment pods.

[KaniRashi]

[KaniRashi]

Full Image...
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/reuters/201 ... blasts.jpg

[alan131210]

here is a smaller size , if you want to remove one of them

btw they are Peshmerge of Kirkuk.

[alan131210]

03/05/2012

Today Thursday, Imad Ahmed , PM deputy chairmen of Kurdistan government, appointed Dr. Xasraw Gul, as general chief commander of Asaish intelligence forces of KRG.

Its also decided to appoint Ismat Argushi to be his acting deputy, adding that anyone disobeying the decision of the unification will face tough consequences without mentioning what these consequences might be.

nrttv

[sheytanElKebir]

I will answer some of the questions first.

For Kurdistan, within its limited land boundaries (and extended zone beyond it) a squadron size of 12+2 is perfectly adequate for the "combat" squadrons (SU35 / JF17 / SU39 / S-314). The Transport/ELINT/SAR squadrons will be ok with 12 aircraft each and the "training" squadrons with 24 aircraft each.



Next points. Dispersal Strategy.

Kurdistan shares similar geography, topology and strategic location with switzerland. so it would be wisest to learn from the Swiss's long experience with maintaining their sovereignty WITHOUT GOING TO WAR with anyone. I emphasise this point, since the entire strategy for the new Kurdish Military is to be a sufficient deterrent to potential attackers that they do not even entertain the idea of invading it. Now Kurdistan can never be 100% invasion proof. The aim of the Military is to make the price of attacking Kurdistan too high for any neighbour to have designs on the country's land.

The swiss operate a very modern and capable military. They compensate partly for their small area (VERY LIMITED strategic depth) by having a very efficient dispersal strategy for the Air force (and other branches of the military - in order to protect them from enemy air attacks, and so that they can continue fighting even when the large visible air bases are attacked and destroyed - which would be the first natural targets for all neighbours).

Kurdistan has to create a dispersal strategy by creating:
-Runway strips on main road arteries for wartime
-having pre-prepared dispersal runways done at low cost (to increase their numbers - since these are not used regularly in peace time, there's no need for expensive runway construction, just simple asphalt).
-Having a special engineering unit within the Air Force dedicated to the construction of "temporary" runways in places which have not previously been used as runways (to throw the enemy off the scent, and having Kurdish fighter jets pop-up from valleys with no known air fields to surprise enemy attack formations).
-These temporary runways are made from simple rubber-plastic-steel square blocks which can be laid in a couple of hours, to create a "runway" wherever you want! Kurdistan should have at least 20-30 of these "kits" (some of them "fakes")
-During times of conflict, Kurdistan should deploy high-quality decoy aircraft at its main operating bases as well as some of the dispersal fields in order to divert enemy attacks towards them, and ambush them on their egress from dispersal runways inside canyons.
-It is possible to deploy the aircraft to these canyons by disassembling their wings and transporting them inside 40ft standard containers, rather than flying to the dispersal field. This is in order to not allert enemy AEW assets about the locations of the "real" dispersal fields.
-Once a fighter lands from a successful sortie, the ground engineering team either "turn it around" for a second sortie (within 20-30 minutes max before enemy air raids go there). Or remove the wings, and park it in underground shelters nearby until a "normal" convoy of lorries passes by, and the truck with the fighter in its container can join this "normal" fleet of trucks along its journey.
-It is imperative to play this game of hide-and-seek NON-STOP without fail during the entire period of hostilities so as to both protect precious assets, and maintain the ability to stop air attacks against Kurdistan and strike deep into the enemy's heartland.

[sheytanElKebir]

Now why did I choose JF17, SU25 and S314 as kurdistan's "dispersable" fighters?

You can fit them in a standard 40ft container! and they can take off from unprepared runways!

The SU-35s are too big for this. So they have to operate out of Kurdistan's "premier" fighter base. The nuclear bomb proof under-mountain airbase...

But how do you protect this airbase from enemy airpower? (especially the entrances and external runway sections?) by having lots of them! lots of entrances with "U" shaped entrances to protect from missile attacks. The runways will utilise piston powered catapult (like on aircraft carriers). On aircraft return they would land on a whole "maze" of external runways which are designed to be redundant against air attacks (too many to destroy). after landing, the SU-35 rapidly moves back into the mountain through one of a dozen or more entrances (or even via an elevator down into the ground). The landing aircraft are always "covered" by a plane in the air to protect it from enemy attacks, both against the vulnerable plane during the landing run, as well as the runway and entrance it chose.