Peshmerga

[sheytanElKebir]

"using" is not the same as "owning" and yes plenty of iraqi helicopters deploy out of Erbil regularly. whether they carry "KRG" or "Iraqi" officials is moot really. show us a helicopter with "Peshmarga" and a Kurdish flag on it! I am not denying anything, just want to see the evidence. I mean if some iraqi came and said "iraq has apaches" I would treat it with the same sort of questioning... (since there's no contractual evidence to support it).


for example the EC120B helicopters are leased from a Swiss company "Helipool Europe GmBH" and registered in Switzerland (originally registered in the US, and later bought by the swiss compant), they came to Kurdistan in 2012 and were second hand. http://www.helipool.com/front_content.php

[crazyhorse]

Biji Peshmerga u Biji Kurdistan!

Look at this old video, it shows the aftermath of a battle fought by the brave Peshmerga of PDK in South-Kurdistan.
They killed many hundreds of Iraqi soldiers during this battle, many hundreds were injured and many hundreds of Iraqi soldiers were captured (at the end of the video you can see the captured Iraqi soldiers ).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7T2OXl0ABw&list=FLCPRZdGpRVMk6MShTh4_3aA&feature=mh_lolz&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

I like the song at the end, don't know the name of it: 'We are Peshmerga and as long as we are here, we will save our people from bloodshed' .

Back then, we didn't need choppers and tanks to defeat the enemy. Now we have heavy weapons, more Peshmerga, training, experience and a lot of economic and political support/relationships. That must say enough .

[Cewlik]

Back then, we didn't need choppers and tanks to defeat the enemy. Now we have heavy weapons, more Peshmerga, training, experience and a lot of economic and political support/relationships. That must say enough .

It is stupid to think like that. Our ambition must be to develop our army. The technology develops faster than ever before and it is importat for Kurdistan to be a part of this development.

It will be only good for our enemies if we dont buy heavy weapons.

[sheytanElKebir]

One mystery is now solved!

The BM21 multiple rocket launchers that I had previously asserted were rotated to Kurdistan for training purposes from the Iraqi army are actually part of the (PUK) Peshmarga command.

106th Field Artillery Battalion.
The battalion commander, Colonel Jalal Adhel Nasadene,

The 106th is equipped with twelve Russian and Romanian multiple-rocket
launchers, organized into three firing batters of two platoons each, with each platoon in
turn divided into a section of two launchers each. Colonel Nasadene’s staff consists of
two deputy commanders, a political officer, an intelligence officer, a finance officer, a
transportation officer, and a maintenance officer. He said a typical workday consists of
physical training (an obstacle course), marksmanship (small arms), and five hours of
training. Resource constraints have prevented his battery from ever conducting live-fire
training with their rocket launchers.114 Nasadene did not specify the source of these
launchers, but during a visit to another PUK artillery unit in 2007, I was told that this
type of equipment was captured from the Iraqi Army during previous conflicts.

[sheytanElKebir]

Yes crazyhorse! my uncle was a peshmerga for 8 years during the 1980s, I know their bravery and selflessness very well!

but ultimately they were defeated by a mechanised army led by a brutal baathists saddam/chemical ali. Its against such foes that a new peshmarga must be organised.

[Kurdistano]

That support contract is for the 30 IRAQI ARMY AVIATION ARH407s!

Yes. This is what I thought..

and here they are:

azad , to kurdi ?? kurdi azani qesa bkay ? wa xalqi kwey to !!!.

I also got the impression he is working under false flag.

[sheytanElKebir]

The PUK "organised" Peshmarga consists of the following:

• Headquarters
• Staff College
• Mechanized Unit Brigade HQ:
Tank Battalion (11 tanks per company)
Mechanized Battalion #1
Mechanized Battalion #2
• Separate Tank Company (11 tanks - newly
formed since 2007)
• Anti-Tank Battalion
1 x Company, SPG9
2 x Company, 106mm Recoilless Rifle
• Tank Destroyer Battalion
2 x RPG 7 Company
1 x Cobra Company (specialized infantry)
• Armor Repair Unit
• Heavy Weapons Battalion (truck-mounted)
2 companies, 14.7mm DShK machinegun
1 company 12.7mm DShK machinegun
• Artillery Battalions:
3 Battalions, 122mm D30 Howitzer (towed)
1 Battalion, 122mm 2S1 Howitzer (self-propelled, 3 batteries)
Self-Propelled Mortar Battalion (Mortar Equipped: 3 x Battery
120mm, 1 x Battery 81/82mm)
Missile Battalion (Grad)
Missile Battalion (Katyusha)
• Air Defense Battery (denominated as a battalion): 6 x platoons
of 6 guns each, 57mm.
• Intelligence Battalion (Reconnaissance) #2*
• Engineer Company
• Cobra School
• Garrison Unit (Garrison support and defense)
• Armored Vehicle Maintenance Company
• Vehicle Maintenance Shop


I had previously put up a pic of the D30 and 2S1s as well as the SAMs. Peshmarga captured 280 MANPADs from the Iraqi army in 2003.

[sheytanElKebir]

the "semi-organised" light units of the peshmarga (PUK) are:

36th Jamala Soor
34th Garmyan
32nd Sharazoor
30th Sharbazher
28th Dokan
26th Koya
24th Khoshnawaty
22nd Bitwen
20th Pshdar
18th Balak
16th Soran
12th Mosul
10th Kirkuk
8th Hawler
6th Sulaimaniyah
2nd 2nd Brigade Skrtyat
1st 1st Brigade Skrtyat

[sheytanElKebir]

on the issue of Peshmarga funding argument between iraq and kurdistan.

It should be noted however, that the
KRG has accepted 60,000 as the target strength for the Peshmerga within a framework
that will insulate them in large part from painful layoffs. This is done in two ways: first
by the already accomplished transfer of approximately 30,000 soldiers from Kurdistan
Army Command to the Zerivani Corps under the command of the KRG Interior Ministry
in Erbil; and second, by transferring almost 30,000 Peshmerga troops into two new Iraqi
Army divisions to be formed in the Kurdistan Region. If the latter transfer occurs, the
net effect will be to cut the KRG military payroll by nearly 25% without having to layoff
a single soldier.
Even assuming that the planned absorption of 30,000 Peshmerga soldiers into the
Iraqi Army occurs, one budgetary question seems not to have been resolved: in addition
to asking the Iraqi Government to assume payment of Peshmerga salaries, the KRG also
asked that the Iraqi Government pay pensions to 90,000 Peshmerga retirees. The
matter of Peshmerga pensions is a very important one as the 2007 Peshmerga laws will
provide for a significant pension liability when they go into force. Law No. 34 of 2007,
Law of Retirement of Disabled Peshmerga (Guards of the Region), provides at Article
Three that
“1. Disabled Peshmerga (The Guards of the Region) will receive a retirement pension
that is equal to his/her last pays and expenses during service. Also, his/her
disability pay will be determined based on his/her disability degree.
2. Peshmerga …who became disabled in the war zone and his/her disability degree is
50% or higher, will be given a higher rank and his/her disability pay will be
determined based on the new rank with special award as an appreciation of his/her
heroic act in the war zone.
3. Peshmerga …who became 100% disabled in the war zone will receive two higher
ranks and pays and expenses pertaining to recognition of heroic act in the war zone.
He/she will receive a one-time award that is equal to all the monthly pays he/she
would otherwise have received in the last eighteen months.
4. The disabled Peshmerga … (who is at least 50% disabled or who has lost a body
part) will receive a disability pay that is equal to 50% of his/her entire salary.”
The same law further provides that if a Peshmerga’s disability is due to wartime service,
then his or her pension benefits transfer to his or her heirs at the Peshmerga’s death,
and provide for other ancillary benefits, including the services of a caregiver under
certain circumstances, rehabilitative care, and free medical treatment; discounted fares
for transportation services; housing; and free education for dependants. The law also
provides for cost of living pension increases.
Law No. 38 of 2007, Law of Service and Retirement of Peshmerga (Guards of the
Region) provides for vesting of full pension rights at the completion of 15 years of
service, with monthly pensions equaling approximately 69% of last monthly salary prior
to retirement for soldier retiring at exactly 15 years of service. The law also provides
for payment of allowances for retiree spouses and children and for the payment of a
generous separation bonus equal to six months pay at retirement, or a full-year salary for
those whose service equals 20 years or who completed 15 years of service prior to the
March 1991 Rapareen. The law even goes so far as to award up to 12 years of
constructive service credit under some circumstances to those who served prior to the
Rapareen, in order to qualify them for pensions. The statute further provides that these
pension rights are transferrable to the retiree’s lawful heirs upon his or her death.

[crazyhorse]

Yes crazyhorse! my uncle was a peshmerga for 8 years during the 1980s, I know their bravery and selflessness very well!

but ultimately they were defeated by a mechanised army led by a brutal baathists saddam/chemical ali. Its against such foes that a new peshmarga must be organised.

Yeah, my father was a Peshmerga for 18 years. He told there were some Arabs (atleast other nationalities) from the South of Iraq. There was no such thing as a highly developped resistance there, but since there was in Kurdistan, some people from the South came to Kurdistan to fight Saddam because he was also killing Shiites (as far as I know).

Was your uncle an Arab Shiit or a Sunni? Or are you from another nationality?

Saddam never defeated the Peshmerga. The Peshmerga have allways continued fighting, they were never broken. The resistance was maybe weakened, but not because many Peshmerga died, but because of the brutal, inhuman revenges of Saddam (gassing civilians, bury them alive because the Peshmerga killed tens of thousands of his soldiers, he couldn't break them, so he used this nasty 'strategy').

[sheytanElKebir]

some more bits..

Three Iraqi Army brigades were organized inside the territory of the KRG, presumably with large Peshmerga contingents in their ranks. These are:
16th Brigade, 4th Iraqi Division (originally 3rd Brigade) at Sulaymaniyah (currently forward deployed
vicinity of Tuz);
5th Brigade of the 2nd Division was originally formed at Erbil (now serving in Mosul);
8th Brigade, 2nd Division, originally formed at Dohuk, but subsequently deployed to Mosul and now training at Habaniya.

and kurdish units in baghdad, and people's perceptions of their conduct.

Sheik Hassan al-Sudani, personal
representative of Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani in the Hurriyah district of Baghdad,
praised the soldiers of the brigade at the end of their mission. Despite having been told to
fear the worst by Kurdish opponents in the capitol prior to the deployment, by the end of
the mission he was able to say that
“for the first time [the people] have seen an Army force with a
clean heart without any support for tribes or religion by working as an
example, avoiding any stealing or receiving bribes …and doing their duty
patriotically. They did everything to protect the people’s dignity and were
able to build a strong relationship.”48
Shiekh al-Sudani’s comments were echoed in the remarks of an Arab resident of
3rd Brigade’s area of operations in Baghdad, who said
“we are very happy for their presence in our area, these guys are an
important force because they are neutral …we want them to stay in our
area, not to leave us after such a short period.”49
Another KRG-based brigade that deployed to Baghdad was 5th Brigade 2nd
Division from Erbil, commanded by Colonel Nazir. The single press report
available to this writer on that unit indicated a similarly strong performance.50

[sheytanElKebir]

Was your uncle an Arab Shiit or a Sunni? Or are you from another nationality?

Saddam never defeated the Peshmerga. The Peshmerga have allways continued fighting, they were never broken. The resistance was maybe weakened, but not because many Peshmerga died, but because of the brutal, inhuman revenges of Saddam (gassing civilians, bury them alive because the Peshmerga killed tens of thousands of his soldiers, he couldn't break them, so he used this nasty 'strategy').

yes. saddam could never destroy the peshmarga spirit. but he brutally killed hundreds of thousands and retarded the development of kurdistan for decades. that alone is reason enough to ensure that Kurdistan has a military capable of defending the PLAINS, not just the mountains.

PS. my uncle's from Samawa in Southern Iraq. he was one of the communist Peshmergas, and he was gassed in 1988 (but survived, taken on the back of a baghal to Iran where he was treated and recovered). He speaks fluent Kurdish too! and used to wear the kurdish dress during his peshmerga days. 3 Years ago he was awarded a medal by Massoud Barzani and a piece of land in Erbil).

[crazyhorse]

Was your uncle an Arab Shiit or a Sunni? Or are you from another nationality?

Saddam never defeated the Peshmerga. The Peshmerga have allways continued fighting, they were never broken. The resistance was maybe weakened, but not because many Peshmerga died, but because of the brutal, inhuman revenges of Saddam (gassing civilians, bury them alive because the Peshmerga killed tens of thousands of his soldiers, he couldn't break them, so he used this nasty 'strategy').

yes. saddam could never destroy the peshmarga spirit. but he brutally killed hundreds of thousands and retarded the development of kurdistan for decades. that alone is reason enough to ensure that Kurdistan has a military capable of defending the PLAINS, not just the mountains.

PS. my uncle's from Samawa in Southern Iraq. he was one of the communist Peshmergas, and he was gassed in 1988 (but survived, taken on the back of a baghal to Iran where he was treated and recovered). He speaks fluent Kurdish too! and used to wear the kurdish dress during his peshmerga days. 3 Years ago he was awarded a medal by Massoud Barzani and a piece of land in Erbil).

Yeah, there were also communist Peshmerga back then. They were quite small, I think it was called 'Hesk' or something .

[sheytanElKebir]

some tidbits about the military academies and such...

2nd and 3rd Iraqi
Military Academies at Qalachulon near Sulaymaniyah (PUK) and Zahko near the Turkish
border (KDP), respectively. Each of these institutions were founded as Peshmerga
military academies by their respective parties (in the case of Zahko, one observer reports
having witnessed troops training there as early as 1963), and now serve to train and
commission officers for the Iraqi Army. Peshmerga training continues at these facilities
alongside Iraqi Army training, with the KDP conducting a 45-day officer training course
at the Zahko Academy and the PUK conducting a two-year course of instruction for
new Peshmerga lieutenants at the Qalachulon.
Instructors and staff are shared between the Iraqi Army and the KDP at the Zahko
academy, and it seems likely that similar arrangements prevail at Qalachulon.
Other transformation examples include the Presidential Brigade based at Besmaya
Camp outside Baghdad, which was originally PUK Peshmerga but is now funded by
the Iraqi Ministry of Defense; and the 36th Commando Battalion in Baghdad, manned
largely by former Peshmerga.

[Rando]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0qfjClvATs&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

i feel sorry for the guy in the end. he has fought 11 years for kurdistan and they don`t allow him to meet imad?
i bet most of those body gurads where sitting in their sofa while this man was working his ass off and spilling his own blood for kurdistan.
i hate to see how our heros is being treated nowdays...