Kurdistan needs united official Kurdish language

[kurd-sthanam]

I don't have one, I just remember seeing it. I know they are one family, but I'm just saying Feyli is probably closer to Hewrami than Sorani, just listen to dialects yourself.
Here are the only videos I could find of feyli kurds speaking: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeMqBZM3j8M&feature=plcp
In this video only the man in white with glasses is speaking fayli: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi6nUlrkDw0&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCj_-AIiLCU&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx4rVR3JsHM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbT9nd7Iu68

feyli is closest to sorani and hewrami is also closest to sorani, ask the sorani speakers here, they say sorani is hewrami with kurmanji influence.

[jjmuneer]

I don't have one, I just remember seeing it. I know they are one family, but I'm just saying Feyli is probably closer to Hewrami than Sorani, just listen to dialects yourself.
Here are the only videos I could find of feyli kurds speaking: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeMqBZM3j8M&feature=plcp
In this video only the man in white with glasses is speaking fayli: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi6nUlrkDw0&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCj_-AIiLCU&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx4rVR3JsHM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbT9nd7Iu68

feyli is closest to sorani and hewrami is also closest to sorani, ask the sorani speakers here, they say sorani is hewrami with kurmanji influence.

Oh I see, tbh honest I'm probably more familar with Kurmanji dialect and how it is prounounced, since there alot of N.Kurds here. I still personally think Sorani isn't that close, considering I know Sorani speakers who can't understand me if I don't use Sorani words in my Feyli. Maybe because they are Hewlaris. I'm not saying its distant, maybe the closeness is purely based on words, not how it is pronounced.

[kurd-sthanam]

Oh I see, tbh honest I'm probably more familar with Kurmanji dialect and how it is prounounced, since there alot of N.Kurds here. I still personally think Sorani isn't that close, considering I know Sorani speakers who can't understand me if I don't use Sorani words in my Feyli. Maybe because they are Hewlaris. I'm not saying its distant, maybe the closeness is purely based on words, not how it is pronounced.

do you speak like the first videos you posted or like the "we feyli" video? because the first ones were some persian sounding. pronouncing can varry much even if the languages are very close , here danish and norwegian are 99% same language with 99% same words and almost same writing, i can read norwegian and understand but when it comes to pronounce the norwegian pronounce and danish is so different that they write subtitles in TV.

[jjmuneer]

Oh I see, tbh honest I'm probably more familar with Kurmanji dialect and how it is prounounced, since there alot of N.Kurds here. I still personally think Sorani isn't that close, considering I know Sorani speakers who can't understand me if I don't use Sorani words in my Feyli. Maybe because they are Hewlaris. I'm not saying its distant, maybe the closeness is purely based on words, not how it is pronounced.

do you speak like the first videos you posted or like the "we feyli" video? because the first ones were some persian sounding. pronouncing can varry much even if the languages are very close , here danish and norwegian are 99% same language with 99% same words and almost same writing, i can read norwegian and understand but when it comes to pronounce the norwegian pronounce and danish is so different that they write subtitles in TV.

As I said in the first one only the man in the glasses and white was speaking feyli, it was no different to the ones in We Feyli. Lol how can you not tell? Theres no difference, so I speak the samething.
Though could you point out the words that were Persian?

[kurd-sthanam]

As I said in the first one only the man in the glasses and white was speaking feyli, it was no different to the ones in We Feyli. Lol how can you not tell? Theres no difference, so I speak the samething.
Though could you point out the words that were Persian?

i know that, but the video nr. 3 and 2. sounds little persian but maybe im wrong.

no i dont understand feyli only words, and in persian only few words.

[jjmuneer]

As I said in the first one only the man in the glasses and white was speaking feyli, it was no different to the ones in We Feyli. Lol how can you not tell? Theres no difference, so I speak the samething.
Though could you point out the words that were Persian?

i know that, but the video nr. 3 and 2. sounds little persian but maybe im wrong.

no i dont understand feyli only words, and in persian only few words.

Oh in the third video the girl was speaking a mix of fayli and Kirmanshahi, the youth do tend to do that alot. So was the man.

[jjmuneer]

I've checked it on wiki it does also include Feyli as a Gorani language, so yes Feyli is also linked to Zazaki

Feyli speak Gorani, a dialect of the Kurdish language. The roots of the Feyli go back to the Aryan immigrants of the first millennium BC, and more specifically, the Parthian/Pahlawi/Pahlawanid settlements of the 2nd century BC. They embraced Islam in the early stages of the Islamic conquest and colonisation of Mesopotamia (Iraq) and Iran, although archaeological evidence from the Ilam Province in Iran indicates that some proportions of Fayli might have been Nestorian Christians until the 18th Century. The conversion to Shia form of Islam seem to have begun under the Safavid dynasty (1507–1721) of Persia/Iran, Faylis today are primarily Imami Shias like the Persians, Lurs and the Azeris, as well as the majority of the Iraqi Arabs.

[kurd-sthanam]

[quote="jjmuneer"]I've checked it on wiki it does also include Feyli as a Gorani language, so yes Feyli is also linked to Zazaki[quote]

this is wiki dont believe in all what you see. i am sure that zaza(kirmancki, dimilki, so-be) and feyli ar one of the most distant related languages inside kurdish . and feyli dont speak hewrami. http://wwwstaff.eva.mpg.de/~cschmidt/SW ... -Odden.pdf

[kurd-sthanam]

who is that on your avatar?

[Cewlik]

who is that on your avatar?

Boromir from the film The Lord of the Rings. You dont know that film?

[jjmuneer]

I've checked it on wiki it does also include Feyli as a Gorani language, so yes Feyli is also linked to Zazaki

this is wiki dont believe in all what you see. i am sure that zaza(kirmancki, dimilki, so-be) and feyli ar one of the most distant related languages inside kurdish . and feyli dont speak hewrami. http://wwwstaff.eva.mpg.de/~cschmidt/SW ... -Odden.pdf

Bro why would they lie? I mean what is Feyli then lol? Gorani is also a southern dialect. Though I don't have any other source, I don't know why they don't explain the Feyli language more. Bro I didn't say we speak it, I said we speak Feyli which is also under the Hewrami catogery, look check it for yourself man. I don't know why you want our languages to be so distant, when they are very close.

[jjmuneer]

who is that on your avatar?

Boromir from the film The Lord of the Rings. You dont know that film?

No that is me as a medieval Kurdish warrior

[kurd-sthanam]

Bro why would they lie? I mean what is Feyli then lol? Gorani is also a southern dialect. Though I don't have any other source, I don't know why they don't explain the Feyli language more. Bro I didn't say we speak it, I said we speak Feyli which is also under the Hewrami catogery, look check it for yourself man. I don't know why you want our languages to be so distant, when they are very close.

bremin i just say facts ofcourse south dialects had influence on each other. like north dialects had influence on each other. like zazakî and kurmancî are very close in gramatic and share much vocabulary wich doesnt exist in south kurdish and central kurdish. but still kurmanci is closer to sorani, even if the kurmanci gramar is closer to zazaki.

Prof. Jamal Nabaz say: North Kurmancî - Central Kurmancî (soranî) - South kurmancî (lek, kelhor, feyli) - Goranî/Zazakî
Prof. Amir Hassanpour: Kurmancî - Soranî - Hewramî - Kirmashanî
Abdul Rahman Zabihi (1920-1980): North - Central - South - Dimilkî/hewramî

source: kurdish academy of language (website)

[kurd-sthanam]

Boromir from the film The Lord of the Rings. You dont know that film?

i havent seen it, not my genre

[hevalo27]

ask the sorani speakers here, they say sorani is hewrami with kurmanji influence.

strange, never heard this, but always i hear sorani i thought the same, maybe its true

is this hewrami? i love it!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eh_HwDDyQY