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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:25 pm

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Are these KUrds or not?? According to IRAN MANIA this are Iranians..
Kamkars will play in Hewler and Madrid. Damn Iranians think Kurds are like them.

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http://www.iranmania.com/News/ArticleVi ... %20Affairs
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:37 pm

kamakars are the best Iranian music group , who are kurd . infact in iran there is no group (banbd)..but because they are a all Brother and Sister . and always in contact with eachother..

they ahve made a GREAAAAAAT band. their music is excelent ! they have won several Big World Wide Awards
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PostAuthor: Diri » Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:02 pm

Yes Welatêmîr - the Kemkars are Kurdish - and they are all related - Kemkar is their surname...

They perfomed in Oslo when Shirin Ebadi (that witch- or should I say turtle -as that is what she looks like?) was given the Nobel Peace Prize...
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PostAuthor: cheryl » Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:35 am

Vladimir, iranians always lie! they are famous for it! ask anyone in kurdistan, what are iranians famous for and you will be told "lying!"

iranian media also always lies!

these are kurds, NOT iranians.

AAAAXXX!! perish the thought!

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PostAuthor: Diri » Sat Aug 06, 2005 12:42 am

She's on a roll :!:

Go girl :!: Go girl :!: Go girl :!:



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PostAuthor: Kurdi » Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:23 am

Diri wrote:They perfomed in Oslo when Shirin Ebadi (that witch- or should I say turtle -as that is what she looks like?) was given the Nobel Peace Prize...


Shirin Ebadi is a great and a strong lady, loved by the world, respected by us, admired by femenists world wide. jeez, diri get help man, what is wrong with you, you seriously hate persians or who ever is persian related or likes them. I guess you think every persian is a seriously twisted kurdish hater just waiting to kill us. I guess my brother's wife (whose a beautiful and lovely persian woman) is a witch inside just waiting to seize the moment to take his life and lie about his identity and rape him from his freedom. you should get help man. Kurds ARE IRANIAN, i was born in iran, iran is my life, my pain, my god, my faith, and if being a kurd and being an iranian means i will be brutally killed, then let the world know, i shall die an iranian, a kurd . no brutall mullahs can change me, and neither some racist chauvinists who just preach hatred can change the fact that i am iranian and an ethnic kurd. No separatism.

we (kurds in iran) shall fight for our rights as one with the rest of the ethnic groups in iran, we are all united in one goal, a free democratic federal iran. an iran which loves its people, an iran which protects every ethnicity under its constitution. an iran which is independent, an iran which backs other iranians outside the border (kurds, afghans, tajiks, baluchis, talysh, tati, ossetians, azeris, zazas etc...), an iran which protects its none iranian language groups, arabs, torqomenz, azeris. an iran which will be the cradle of civilization once again. this is what true iranians fight for. any criticism about my belief, im okay with them but i will not change.
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PostAuthor: heval » Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:53 am

You know Mr. Kurdi, just as your are entitled to your opinions and beliefs, so is every other person here. And if Diri feels that way about one person or the other, that is his choice. He and others in the forum are Kurds from what the world calls Iran just like yourself. If you cannot respect their beliefs, then there is no way that you should expect anyone in this forum to respect yours.
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PostAuthor: Diri » Sat Aug 06, 2005 12:57 pm

Please.

Mr. Kurdi - By attacking me with your prejudice (as i am not "Persian hater") I understood that whatever was gonna come next in your post I would have to take with VERY many pinches of salt! I am delighted to see that the our brothers in Eastern Kurdistan (thank you Heval - who is a Eastern Kurd like myself) have such vigor and strenght to stand against the cruelest of oppressional forms. The oppressional form which takes the shape of a "brother" - like our DEAR "Iranian brothers"...

Please - if you may only for one second - think - "why are my brothers in Eastern Kurdistan fighting this regime"? you would understand what being a Kurd is aboute...

Thank you very much for your time...
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PostAuthor: pepula » Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:30 pm

Kurdi wrote:
Diri wrote:They perfomed in Oslo when Shirin Ebadi (that witch- or should I say turtle -as that is what she looks like?) was given the Nobel Peace Prize...


Shirin Ebadi is a great and a strong lady, loved by the world, respected by us, admired by femenists world wide. jeez, diri get help man, what is wrong with you, you seriously hate persians or who ever is persian related or likes them. I guess you think every persian is a seriously twisted kurdish hater just waiting to kill us. I guess my brother's wife (whose a beautiful and lovely persian woman) is a witch inside just waiting to seize the moment to take his life and lie about his identity and rape him from his freedom. you should get help man. Kurds ARE IRANIAN, i was born in iran, iran is my life, my pain, my god, my faith, and if being a kurd and being an iranian means i will be brutally killed, then let the world know, i shall die an iranian, a kurd . no brutall mullahs can change me, and neither some racist chauvinists who just preach hatred can change the fact that i am iranian and an ethnic kurd. No separatism.

we (kurds in iran) shall fight for our rights as one with the rest of the ethnic groups in iran, we are all united in one goal, a free democratic federal iran. an iran which loves its people, an iran which protects every ethnicity under its constitution. an iran which is independent, an iran which backs other iranians outside the border (kurds, afghans, tajiks, baluchis, talysh, tati, ossetians, azeris, zazas etc...), an iran which protects its none iranian language groups, arabs, torqomenz, azeris. an iran which will be the cradle of civilization once again. this is what true iranians fight for. any criticism about my belief, im okay with them but i will not change.
peace.


what a stupid pointless name you have if you're an 'iranian'.
you should reregister with a different name-shame on calling yourself kurdish if you dont want for kurdistan to be independant. ax duxme sag
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sat Aug 06, 2005 11:02 pm

The 16 provinces of Kurdistan were a long time under Ottoman control and not Persian control. I wonder why you call yourself Iranian, while you are from the genetic Aryan stock. That the Persians diliberately changed the story is logical, because they want the Kurdish country.
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PostAuthor: cheryl » Sat Aug 06, 2005 11:54 pm

<<no brutall mullahs can change me, and neither some racist chauvinists who just preach hatred can change the fact that i am iranian and an ethnic kurd.>>

nor can anyone change the fact that you are totally brainwashed. . . collaborator. you had better be careful because it seems to me it is not such a good time to be a collaborator anymore. . . it is never a good time to be a dirty collaborator when the moment for armed serhildan becomes an absolute necessity.

shirin ebadi is a pig, a tool of the filthy mullahs.

down with the "territorial integrity" of the filthy mullahs! it is time for barzanî namirî's glorious bashurî peshmerga to return to mahabad and reclaim what is rightfully the property of kurds from the murderer ahmedinejad!

long live the memory of qazi mohammed, dr. qassemlou and dr. sharafkandi!

bijî SEPARATISM!

bijî rojhelat û her bijî kurdistan!

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PostAuthor: Kurdi » Sun Aug 07, 2005 12:21 am

You know Mr. Kurdi, just as your are entitled to your opinions and beliefs, so is every other person here. And if Diri feels that way about one person or the other, that is his choice. He and others in the forum are Kurds from what the world calls Iran just like yourself. Our experiences with Iran have led us to believe in the ways that we do. If you cannot respect our beliefs, then there is no way that you should expect anyone in this forum to respect yours.

Many here are particularly disgusted with the recent tragic events taking place in Iran. If Southern Kurdistan were to be independent tomorrow, I am sure that many Kurds from Iran would love to join the independent Kurdistan than to stay a part of Iran given the circumstances of the people living there today. That is also something you should keep in mind and have respect for, if you wish for these same people to respect you.

I will leave you with this, a translation from Mamosta Hêmin's poems from Mahabad - "They can hang me but until my feet touch this earth, I will say I am Kurd and only Kurd." This is how many of the protestors today feel and maybe you should feel a little obligated to support them even if you disagree.[/quote]

i dont respect racism, of anykind any where by anyone.

and for others, i seriously dont understand your mentality about aryanism, persianism, kurdism. as far as i know many persians say they are persians because they are ashamed of the mullhas rulling their country. calling themself persian is like iraqis calling them selves babylonians. they should call themselves iranian of persian speaking w/e. thats their problem not mine.
dont get me wrong, i support more freedom for kurds in iran and ouside iran. I also support autonomies for kurds outside iran. dont get me wrong, i hate to see our people and children die for violence. i hate to see that happening, and diri and cheryl, if you support war then u support ur own peoples misfortune. i support peace, and in peacefully way of settling the score with the mullahs and notorious terrorist ahmadinejad.
no iranian, of any persian, likes ahmadinejad. dont get me wrong again, i would love one day a kurdish president runs iran, and believe me that will happen. i wouldnt mind if say an ahwazi arab becomes president.why? because they are iranian, and my love goes out to them.
my mother's religion tells her to love her enemy, im not religious but that is a good idea.

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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun Aug 07, 2005 12:23 am

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: LITTERALY!


YOU HEARD HER ( :!: ) , COLLABORATOR :!: :!: :!:
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PostAuthor: Kurdi » Sun Aug 07, 2005 12:28 am

oh ya i forgot, if you want to express your rage against persian chuavninsts, visit

http://www.iranpoliticsclub.net/club
i founded while surfing the google.
i didnt join that forum because i felt its too stupid to even bother, dont care, but i want to see how u diri and others handle confrontation if there is going to be one, i like to see the forum kurdo-persian wars. :lol: haha

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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun Aug 07, 2005 12:36 am

I have already been on a Forum with the same STUPID people... And they were ANTI all who were ANTI-MONARCHISTS... Doesn't leave much room for democracy and freedom of speech does it? Just like the rest of PERSIAN (and I am still not a Persian-hater) politics of opressing Kurds and making them their slaves for eternity!

And I HAVE HAD ENOUGH! I AM A FREE HUMAN BEING BORN AND RAISED FOR THE DAY TO CLAIM MY RIGHTS! AND I WILL NOT STOP AT ANYTHING AND AT NO HINDERS - MAY ALL MY ENEMIES STAND CLEAR FOR THEY SHALL FEEL MY WRAITH!!!

- Just so you know... This is how I would like YOU to sound... But you rather say "I wanna be with my Persian brothers who are gonna use me and that is okey... We are all Iranians - they can sleep in my house as long as they want to"...
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