Words I do not know in Kurdish

[kurd-sthanam]

Short vowels

e read as e in ker/xer (donkey), le (in)

u read as u in kurd when you pronounce it in real kurdish way. or "gul" (rose), kulîlk (flower), ku (where), qurban

i read as destim (my hand), exwazin/dixwazin/exwazîdin (you would/want)

Long vowels

î is read as î in kurdî, feylî, kî (who)

ê is as lê, pê, xêr

a is as xwardin, kurdistan, kar(work), exwazim, helal

û is read as kûr (deep),

o is read as sond (oath), sohbet, if i am not wrong sorani and kurmanc kurds use it more than feylî, as çon (how) in sorani vs çun in feyli.

Consonants

ş as şîrîn

ç as çon/çun,(how), çend (how many, how much)

j as roj (day)

w as xew (sleep), exwemewe(i drink)

v is used in NK dialects, its doesnt exist in most SK dialects. but its read as V in persian, something between F and W.

[kurd-sthanam]

So you feel comfortable using Turkish words ?

i dont say i feel comfortable.

i mean it in the negative way persians=turks=arabs

but yes you have right, persian loanwords integrate better than turkish words.

[hevalo27]

no zerya is in real meaning sea not ocean. its also stated in avesta as "zrya". derya and deryaçe are persian loanwords, in real kurdish its zerya and zeryaçe.
like persians say "danestan" with D for know, we say "zanistin/zanîn" with Z.

but i found this in sorani wikipedia for ocean: شازەریا (şazerya)

that with dan/zan (know), or zistan/zivistan (winter) is the different between nortwesstiranian and southwestiranian languages, right?
they use d, we z.

and this xw in kurmanci

so, oldiranian was xw

-> oldpersian x

-> oldkurdish w
-> middle-kurmanci (+x)w because of persian influence or w,
-> middle-dimliki (probably parthian) w(+x) i think persian influence,
-> new-dimliki w, = like oldkurdish
-> new-kurmanci xw, = like oldiranian

so i think (w) is also from oldkurdish like z from zan.

do you know more characteristics from northwestiranian languages?

[alan131210]

the dictionary i have both yad and azadi , lake = deryaçe , not şazerya , though ocean is zerya and how can a lake is şazerya ? a zeryaçe is ok but şazerya for lake is wrong .

[jjmuneer]

Short vowels

e read as e in ker/xer (donkey), le (in)

u read as u in kurd when you pronounce it in real kurdish way. or "gul" (rose), kulîlk (flower), ku (where), qurban

i read as destim (my hand), exwazin/dixwazin/exwazîdin (you would/want)

Long vowels

î is read as î in kurdî, feylî, kî (who)

ê is as lê, pê, xêr

a is as xwardin, kurdistan, kar(work), exwazim, helal

û is read as kûr (deep),

o is read as sond (oath), sohbet, if i am not wrong sorani and kurmanc kurds use it more than feylî, as çon (how) in sorani vs çun in feyli.

Consonants

ş as şîrîn

ç as çon/çun,(how), çend (how many, how much)

j as roj (day)

w as xew (sleep), exwemewe(i drink)

v is used in NK dialects, its doesnt exist in most SK dialects. but its read as V in persian, something between F and W.

How do you know Fayli words?

[jjmuneer]

Zwan turk, zwan hen xera-The laguage of the turk is the language of a donkey.

[kurd-sthanam]

the dictionary i have both yad and azadi , lake = deryaçe , not şazerya , though ocean is zerya and how can a lake is şazerya ? a zeryaçe is ok but şazerya for lake is wrong .

şazerya is stood for ocean in sorani wikipedia sorry my fault. http://ckb.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A6%D9%88%D9%82%DB%8C%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%88%D9%88%D8%B3

so yes, zerya=derya and zeryache=deryache, wich the words with Z is original kurdish words, those with D loanwords.

[kurd-sthanam]

How do you know Fayli words?

these words are all in kurmanci.

exwemewe is sorani, i guess you use it also. (kurmancî : vedixwim)
exwazîdin was guess, because they say exwazin in sorani. (dixwazin in kurmanci, wazenê in zazaki (wich again is guess))

i have need only 1 week to learn a whole kurdish language. cursus + one sorani/zazaki/feyli speaker, you will learn in a very short time.

[jjmuneer]

Why do you Soranis say 'Ser' for front, whilst we say 'Nwaa', I don't know the exact spellings, so please stop critiszing for spelling mistake.

[jjmuneer]

How do you know Fayli words?

these words are all in kurmanci.

exwemewe is sorani, i guess you use it also. (kurmancî : vedixwim)
exwazîdin was guess, because they say exwazin in sorani. (dixwazin in kurmanci, wazenê in zazaki (wich again is guess))

i have need only 1 week to learn a whole kurdish language. cursus + one sorani/zazaki/feyli speaker, you will learn in a very short time.

I object to it being called a Kurmanci word, it is fayli
Yeh well Kurdish curses are fairly simple lol, they are universal.

[hevalo27]

Zwan turk, zwan hen xera-The laguage of the turk is the language of a donkey.

zimane kera ji keran re
donkeys language for donkeys

[kurd-sthanam]

do you know more characteristics from northwestiranian languages?

it was hw in old iranian and old kurdish. there are still dialects wich uses hw in EK.

x to k in sorani and kurmanci
x to h in zazaki
still x in SK and hewrami.

v to b in sorani and kurmanci
m to v/w in all dialects, but not zazaki, hewrami.

v lost in all SK languages.

old kurdish: ergative language
Kurmanci and zazaki: ergative languages
sorani and hewrami: split-ergative
SK, feyli: non ergative, persian-like.

[jjmuneer]

do you know more characteristics from northwestiranian languages?

it was hw in old iranian and old kurdish. there are still dialects wich uses hw in EK.

x to k in sorani and kurmanci
x to h in zazaki
still x in SK and hewrami.

v to b in sorani and kurmanci
m to v/w in all dialects, but not zazaki, hewrami.

v lost in all SK languages.

old kurdish: ergative language
Kurmanci and zazaki: ergative languages
sorani and hewrami: split-ergative
SK, feyli: non ergative, persian-like.

Wtf is persian like about Feyli? Just because it is spoken in Kirmanshan it doesn't mean every Kirmanshahi is a Fayli.

[hevalo27]

do you know more characteristics from northwestiranian languages?

it was hw in old iranian and old kurdish. there are still dialects wich uses hw in EK.

x to k in sorani and kurmanci
x to h in zazaki
still x in SK and hewrami.

ker/her/xer true

v to b in sorani and kurmanci
m to v/w in all dialects, but not zazaki, hewrami.

baran/varan
nav/naw/nam true

v lost in all SK languages.

??
li ve cihe = li e cihe?
(on this place)

[jjmuneer]

do you know more characteristics from northwestiranian languages?

it was hw in old iranian and old kurdish. there are still dialects wich uses hw in EK.

x to k in sorani and kurmanci
x to h in zazaki
still x in SK and hewrami.

ker/her/xer true

v to b in sorani and kurmanci
m to v/w in all dialects, but not zazaki, hewrami.

baran/varan
nav/naw/nam true

v lost in all SK languages.

??
li ve cihe = li e cihe?
(on this place)

V is also used in Kirmanshahi