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Re: Words I do not know in Kurdish

PostAuthor: hevalo27 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:34 pm

jjmuneer wrote:V is also used in Kirmanshahi


what do they say for this words in kirmanschahi?

do drink! "bivexwe",
do open the door! " deri veke"
here "vir"
overall "tevde"
evening "shev"
night "ivar"
father "bav"
im waiting for you "eze hevi ya te bim" hevi means hope
do fall! "bikeve"
human "mirov"
summer "havin"
pigeon "kevok"


all words with v, and know you :smile:

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Re: Words I do not know in Kurdish

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:49 pm

we in sorani have night and evening the otherway , we say "şew" for night and "êware" for evening . :-D

in persian its also şeb and afghanis say şew as well .
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Re: Words I do not know in Kurdish

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:11 pm

alan131210 wrote:we in sorani have night and evening the otherway , we say "şew" for night and "êware" for evening . :-D

in persian its also şeb and afghanis say şew as well .

Yes we say şew be xer, and also êware
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Re: Words I do not know in Kurdish

PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:39 pm

hevalo27: sorry it was me. :-D i meaned that the V sounds shifts to W in sorani and south kurdish languages. hevalo where are you from, wich region?

bav = baw
êvar/îvarî = êwar, îwarig (evening)
şev - şew (night)
teva - tewaw
bikeve - bikewêt, bikef
bivexwe (the correct is vebixwe or simply vexwe) - bixwewe
veke - bikatewe
vekirin - kirdinewe

correct me if i am wrong with the sorani.

jjmuneer> why are you angry and agressive :-D, i said feyli is non-ergative.
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Re: Words I do not know in Kurdish

PostAuthor: hevalo27 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:27 pm

alan131210 wrote:we in sorani have night and evening the otherway , we say "şew" for night and "êware" for evening . :-D


#-o in kurmanci too, my mistake :-D

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my famylie comes from shirnex, why?

this v --> w i think it comes from hawrami accent, could this be?
the accent is completely different to kurmanci and closer to hawrami ,
because sorani and southkurdish-speaker were originally hawrami-kurds, until it was displaced from kurmanci.

or is this according to shift a normal process?

men, i wished i would know the trueth about kurdish, but they will be ever eternal secrets.

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Re: Words I do not know in Kurdish

PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:19 am

hevalo27 wrote:
my famylie comes from shirnex, why?

this v --> w i think it comes from hawrami accent, could this be?
the accent is completely different to kurmanci and closer to hawrami ,
because sorani and southkurdish-speaker were originally hawrami-kurds, until it was displaced from kurmanci.

or is this according to shift a normal process?

men, i wished i would know the trueth about kurdish, but they will be ever eternal secrets.


just asked.

yes may be. it sounds similar in songs but i dont believe it is so close.
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Re: Words I do not know in Kurdish

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:14 am

kurd-sthanam wrote:hevalo27: sorry it was me. :-D i meaned that the V sounds shifts to W in sorani and south kurdish languages. hevalo where are you from, wich region?

bav = baw
êvar/îvarî = êwar, îwarig (evening)
şev - şew (night)
teva - tewaw
bikeve - bikewêt, bikef
bivexwe (the correct is vebixwe or simply vexwe) - bixwewe
veke - bikatewe
vekirin - kirdinewe

correct me if i am wrong with the sorani.

jjmuneer> why are you angry and agressive :-D, i said feyli is non-ergative.

You said it was Persian like. :sad: Just because you don't understand it don't mean it is persian like. I know there are Persian loan words, but it is only a few.

We don't use Baw for why, but 'ereche'.
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Re: Words I do not know in Kurdish

PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:04 pm

jjmuneer wrote:You said it was Persian like. :sad: Just because you don't understand it don't mean it is persian like. I know there are Persian loan words, but it is only a few.

We don't use Baw for why, but 'ereche'.


Bav means father, Baba
why means çima in kurmanci and zazaki and bo çî in sorani

how do you say "you saw me" in feyli?

kurmanc: te ez dîtim
zaza: to ez dîyan
sorani: minit dît
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Re: Words I do not know in Kurdish

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:34 pm

kurd-sthanam wrote:
jjmuneer wrote:You said it was Persian like. :sad: Just because you don't understand it don't mean it is persian like. I know there are Persian loan words, but it is only a few.

We don't use Baw for why, but 'ereche'.


Bav means father, Baba
why means çima in kurmanci and zazaki and bo çî in sorani

how do you say "you saw me" in feyli?

kurmanc: te ez dîtim
zaza: to ez dîyan
sorani: minit dît


no we say bo for why and çî for what .

also we say for "you saw me" = minit bînî ,minit dî, more often .
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Re: Words I do not know in Kurdish

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:52 pm

kurd-sthanam wrote:
jjmuneer wrote:You said it was Persian like. :sad: Just because you don't understand it don't mean it is persian like. I know there are Persian loan words, but it is only a few.

We don't use Baw for why, but 'ereche'.


Bav means father, Baba
why means çima in kurmanci and zazaki and bo çî in sorani

how do you say "you saw me" in feyli?

kurmanc: te ez dîtim
zaza: to ez dîyan
sorani: minit dît

In Fayli çî means what. You saw me in Fayli is 'Tu dî dem'.
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Re: Words I do not know in Kurdish

PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:59 pm

jjmuneer wrote:
kurmanc: te ez dîtim
zaza: to ez dîyan
sorani: minit dît

In Fayli çî means what. You saw me in Fayli is 'Tu dî dem'.


realy? I expected something like persian "marâ dîdî".

so you have a grammar that are typical for kurdish.

how do you say:

they saw us, (wan em dîtîn)
you (pl.) saw them, (we ew dîtin)
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Re: Words I do not know in Kurdish

PostAuthor: hevalo27 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:04 pm

jjmuneer wrote:In Fayli çî means what. You saw me in Fayli is 'Tu dî dem'.

is normal for kurmanci, it seeme that laki was influenced by kurmanci

for why we say "cima", "bo ci", "ji bo ci" and "ji bona ci".
so you can see this "cima" and "bo" comes from "ji bona cima" and is simply a shortened version

for what we use also ci, what is? ci ye?
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Re: Words I do not know in Kurdish

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:07 pm

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Tu dî dem , doesn't this mean "i saw you" not "you saw me" ?
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Re: Words I do not know in Kurdish

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:08 pm

kurd-sthanam wrote:
jjmuneer wrote:
kurmanc: te ez dîtim
zaza: to ez dîyan
sorani: minit dît

In Fayli çî means what. You saw me in Fayli is 'Tu dî dem'.


realy? I expected something like persian "marâ dîdî".

so you have a grammar that are typical for kurdish.

how do you say:

they saw us, (wan em dîtîn)
you (pl.) saw them, (we ew dîtin)

Are you for real? So your trying to insult me? Why would say that just cause were Fayli? I will not talk to you if you want to undermine Fayli Kurdish. Maybe I interpretted you wrongly, but please stop prejuding us.

They saw us-Yana Dîn em

And no I don't understand Kurmancani, nor do we say Bo or cima.
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Re: Words I do not know in Kurdish

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:09 pm

alan131210 wrote:jj

Tu dî dem , doesn't this mean "i saw you" not "you saw me" ?

No Tu means you, whilst I means Meh.
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