dyaoko wrote:to moderator, peopel can say their idea about every relligion freely !
the bad language is not allowed when it is about none-sense personal aruges!
let peopel have thier own idea about relligoin and keep your own idea .
by the way ,our israeli friends has claim KURDS hate PKK !
read here
http://www.zaman.com/?bl=international&alt=&hn=22689The terrorist organization the PKK, which is a very small group, did not represent Iraqi Kurds and almost anyone in Iraq is opposed to the PKK, added Rubin, mentioning he was a supporter of forming a federal structure in Iraq. “The PKK serves the interests of those opposing a federal system in Iraq.”
Terrorism should be solved not in years, but in months
The PKK’s opening of an office in Kerkuk (Kirkuk) is a decision that Iraq has to take; however, it may end with dire consequences, Rubin warned.
come on, dyaoko, you are quoting something from zaman, a turkish media propaganda tool! of course it is going to say that most kurds hate pkk. i have heard this a million times, if i have heard it once, from turks!
by the way, rubin is an american "friend" not an israeli.
rubin is also full of sh*t here, because i have asked friends in the krg whether or not the krg would act to hand over kurds (at qandîl) to turkey. the answer was an emphatic "no" and this from bahdini who had been shot at by pkk during the war with pkk in bahdinan or they had been kdp peshmerga fightint pkk in bahdinan! still they realize that the gerîlas at qandîl are, in fact, kurds, and they know what will happen to them if they hand them over to turkey, which is something they totally oppose.
. . . . you know, honestly, i hope the bashurî are lying to rubin. after the american attack on salahaddin university, the ordering of peshmerga out of mûsil and kerkuk in the spring of 2003--stupid, stupid, stupid--and rumsfeld's latest trip in which he basically tried to beat the kurds over the head, saying, in effect: "hurry up and finish this constitution thing! give the arabs whatever they want! forget about kerkuk and just LEARN TO COMPROMISE! JUST FINISH THE DAMNED THING ACCORDING TO OUR TIMETABLE AND SCREW YOU WITH THE CONSEQUENCES!"
so i really, really hope the bashurî are lying through their teeth, telling all of these worthless american officials all kinds of lies so they are completely thrown off track.
back on topic----if "iraq" (i.e. ja'afari) ever thinks it will make a deal with turkey to hand over pkk remnants at qandîl, (which ja'afari has already tried) well, they will have to send an arab army into liberated kurdistan to do it. so when any arab army gets done fighting the peshmerga for invading liberated kurdistan, they won't have the energy, much less the guts, to fight the pkk!
of course rubin is a supporter of "a federal structure in iraq" because that is the position of the us govenment. i am a supporter of it too,
only as long as it serves as a stepping stone to kurdish independence and given the way things are going in "iraq," especially with the shi'a making louder and more frequent noises about the possibility of a separate shi'a state in the south. . . well the "stepping-stone" scenario becomes more likely, in, oh, i don't know. . . the next 10 to 15 years???
“The PKK serves the interests of those opposing a federal system in Iraq.”
what
EVER!
dude, seriously, what does that mean? and this business about pkk opening an office in kerkuk leading to "dire consequences?" oooooooooh!! yet
more melodrama? exactly what we need more of in the ME, right?
what crap is that? is he referring to PWD? or is he really referring to PKK? would you mind elaborating on what exactly you mean by "dire consequences" mr. rubin? after all, you make all those big bucks sitting around in "think tanks" all day. . . certainly you must have something specific in mind.
given that these statements are carried in a turkish rag sheet makes me question what is being said because these are the same people who say that barzanî and talabanî and all other bashurî are terrorists or pkk. for them, kurd = terrorist, period. what was his exact statement and what did zaman cut out or embellish to serve the interests of the AKP?
what in the hell does all of that really mean? does it have any meaning at all or is it totally meaningless verbal trash?
i'm going with the totally meaningless verbal trash thing.
