Kurdish Rivers Water Israel ?

[dyaoko]

is it true that israel's water comes from Kurdistan ?
do they pay the price of the water that they drink to us?

oooops I forogot , yeah they do pay the price , they pay it not in cash but by goods . they give tanks - warplanes ...and stuff instead of the water that they drink , to Our Enemy .

oh yea and also they drink kurdish water and piss it to kurdish mouth ...

"The Jewish Institute for National Security" To Help Turkey battle with PKK
http://northerniraq.info/news/index.php ... =1#more757

thank you

[Kurdi]

kurdish waters?
the Kirkuk oil goes straight to israel. and no, no kurd ever gets any money for it.
Kurds are just tools for america and israel to achieve their own objectives.

[Vladimir]

Yes America Israel Jews they are the biggest problem of the world...


ehh Sorry I don't have a middle east mentality..

[dyaoko]

nobody said they are the biggest problem of the world, thats just how nazi and how arabs think.

but we have the right to ask "did you pay the price of the water" ?
sure they never paid it to Kurds .

when you ask expertise, why israel do this and that ... with turkey.
they anwer , it is none of your bussines, they are nation , and they do for their own benefit , no need to dedicate themself for you...

well ok dont need ...but plz pay the price of the water...

if they pay the price of the water they drink (or have drunk) we can make a good army with that money ! we can buy tanks

[Mosul]

dyako why dont you tell ppl like diri this stuff, so he can stop making imaginary friends.

[cheryl]

dyaoko, there was a water contract signed between turkey and israel a few years ago, information about which is here:

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i had to use the cached page because otherwise articles on that site are subscription (695 pounds sterling/year).

obviously, water from turkey is really water from kurdistan and i have argued that point with turks who take great offense to it. they see it as their water, which, in my opinion, is bull.

this is yet another reason why an independent kurdistan would be a benefit for both israel and kurdistan because any water contracts could be made directly between the two countries.

however, if israel cares so little about its own people, it will care little about kurds. that does not mean to say that there are not individuals who care, but nations, with questionable "interests of national security" or however they like to phrase the excuse for immorality.

Kurdi, care to provide a link proving that kerkuk oil goes straight to israel? you are referencing the kerkuk/haifa pipeline, about which there was some discussion in the latter half of 2003 and about which there has been no discussion since.

kerkuk's oil goes straight to turkey through the kerkuk/ceyhan pipeline. it is always the target of sunni arabs and their foreign terrorist brethren, so even if the money is going to kurdistan, which i doubt, especially given the latest news on the constitution negotiations in baghdad, not much money will actually get to kurdistan because the pipeline is sabotaged so often that not much oil is actually getting out.

if "Kurds are just tools for america and israel to achieve their own objectives," does this mean you are engaging in a bit of psychological projection? what i mean by that is, aren't you just a tool of the filthy mullahs to achieve their own objectives in the brutal genocide with which they are currently engaged in rojhelat? is that being done merely to exploit the resources of rojhelat? or are you really engaging in a true genocide for the pure sake of genociding kurds?

[Emmunah]

If Israel bought some mineral from Iran that was made in Kurdish areas...how exactly would Israel make sure Kurds were paid for that? If they buy something from Mali, that came from the Tureg tribes, how would they make sure the Tureg were actually paid? You actually DO have to make an agreement with the governing body who rightfully, or wrongfully, controls the product you are purchasing. I could not buy water that traveled through Turkish government lines from Kurdistan no matter how much I might want to. It is not within their power to do that.

How many other non-kurdish nations get their water from Kurdistan?

[Vladimir]

Another reason why Turkey doesn't let Kurdistan free. Kurdistan = big power..

They also will export to Jordan... its not only Israel who wants water.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/685812.stm

[dyaoko]

If Israel bought some mineral from Iran that was made in Kurdish areas...how exactly would Israel make sure Kurds were paid for that? If they buy something from Mali, that came from the Tureg tribes, how would they make sure the Tureg were actually paid? You actually DO have to make an agreement with the governing body who rightfully, or wrongfully, controls the product you are purchasing. I could not buy water that traveled through Turkish government lines from Kurdistan no matter how much I might want to. It is not within their power to do that.

How many other non-kurdish nations get their water from Kurdistan?

it is not to say that Jews come and pay the money to PKK or to kurdish ppl...

1-it is to say, Israeli ppl OWE money to Kurds, they better know that Turks has used that money to buy Warplanes from Israel to kill kurdish peopel .

2-I belive kurds have been enough killed just for being jews and americans firends...
it was in the news that Iran FM, has accused USA for insurgents in Eeast Kurdistan , I have heared the peopel who been arrested are going to be sentenced to Death for "being Imperilism's Servent or for being Israel's Servent"
we are being killed for this friendship .

but ...what israeli ppl pay for this friendship ? cant they lower their allience with turkey ? or at least pay the price of the water they drink to kurdish ppl (not donation or something jsut pay the price !) ? we can buy things we need to librate kurdistan for ourself...and we wouldnt need anybody to librate us.

well I should if they didnt hate arabs that much, they never even donate their spited on our face...they wouldn never even mention our name....

infact it is to their benefit to be our freind, as long as arabs are our enemy . (so they donate 1 article per year about us...)
to prove this you should look at how many articles in israel been printed about kurds in turkey ? Answer is Zero . not only hasnt supported kruds in Turkey..,.but also send their NATIOANL SECURITY INSINTUE to war against them. why ? it is to their benefit .

That was to mention , Israeli ppl OWE to us . and also to Warn kurdish inttelcutals that dont rely on them at all... because they will be with us until we dont make trobule for their vital alley in the region .
we are just a doll to prevents arabs and iranians become too powerfull.

as far as I know our water goes to many places....Sirwan River is the main river that flows to persian gulf (Sirwan makes Dijle and Firat), if we close it , the ships cant move in that sea ...(it wouldnt be deep enough)

[dyaoko]

hey there is no single day that you dont read anti kurdish things from israelis...

JINSA : PKK is a very tiny unpopular terrorist group and USA must ambush them in cold winter


The following article was published by "The Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs" and the offensive words not our words.
PKK is a very small group and that it does not represent Kurds in Turkey, nor does it represent Kurds in Iraq.
The PKK, Michael Rubin noted, is unpopular in Iraq and most Iraqi Kurds remain upset with them.
He also accused PKK to Killing 30000 "Turks" and to Mediterranean bombings .
Rubin added that the window of opportunity opens during the winter when the PKK, who generally inhabit the mountains, need to come down to purchase supplies. The panel agreed that there is enough time from now until winter to formulate a plan, and hoped that the trilateral talks happening now could bring about some kind of action in the near future.
“Turkey needs to be a lot more consistent in its definition of terrorism across the board, in Turkey and elsewhere, and more importantly, the United States needs to mean what it promises because actions, not words, are going to be what defeats this terrorist scourge,” Rubin stated in conclusion......

Read more here

http://northerniraq.info/news/index.php ... =1#more846

Why you jews dont yell at this Fucker National Jew Security Institute ? and why you dont tell them please dont represent us ?

how this mother fucker calls PKK a tiny terrorist group that we kurd are upset with them ...

this BEATS JEW , Michel Rubin is saying making a plan when ppk has to come down the mountain in WINTER ...to find food , to shoot them.

how firece...how cursed...how fucker ...how evil....how can I be friend with such fuckers ? if you jews dont like them...go and e-mail them...and tell them "please dont represent us ...plz dont use jew name to kill kurds"

[Emmunah]

i will write that letter and supplicate myself before you on this condition.

1. show me one nation that has more articles on behalf of kurdish independence in the middle east.
2. show me a group of people who publish more pro-kurdish independence articles than jews do, and i will do as you say.

If these people exist...the nation that is publishing for an independent kurdistan...i've not ever seen it. It also seems like every time i find another pro-kurdish independence article anywhere it was written by a jew....not that some others do not write articles..but i mean as many.

there is another issue here and that's freedom of the press. i think you have to know that no one will ever agree in one country or among one people. only in totalitarian nations do you read only ONE opinion.

I am also not a supporter of the pkk. i don't believe they chose the right path.

[dyaoko]

I am not supporter of any kurdish party all of them has done great mistakes , but I belive PKK has done so much better than PUK and KDP.

if you mean pkk is terroirts and your Natioan's security institue has the right to talk about that in that way ...and say they are a tiny dirty group and they must go in winter to Buther them...ok
I am sure, if instead of PKK was ,every other popular party , just imagine ..hm... something like "Kurd Union of Atatruk Lovers"
and they had just claimed some small kurdish rights....stilll it would be on terror list.

mind that Pkk has done some great changes in the last months... they have completly left the Marxist Ideology , (Karayalan said in an interview wiht press) and they condemended every bombing on civils.. and said it was TAK which is no longer under their control and they are so much more radical...
they also offered to take their arms down if turkey accepts negoitae...
I guess PKK has done their best to come back to the world...
but world doenst accept them...
not only they dont encourage pkk to go more steps, they (jews) also ask USA to give more warplanes to Turkey to attack to them....Stupid !

and it has done so much better than every other kurdish party ! (look at PUK and KDP they couldnt conrol 5 million kurds in south, under NO FLY ZONE - they fighted each other and asked saddam to help them in their fight....and finllay US made them stop the war... but PKK has kept 25 million Turkish Kurd and 12 million Iranina kurds together....)

and their news agenicis are the most active one ....the insurgents in East Kurdistan, was because PKK news angecy had took photo of dead tortured body of Shwane ...if they hadnt nobody would know...

PKK is the most secular ...they improved extremist muslem kurds culture a lot ! and they respect women right so much ... (many of their comannders are female)

whats wrong with these poor PKK , why every body has left them alone ....I stand against everybody who want to kill them....

Freedom of speech ?
sigh.... they are an institute not a Media ! they are not just "talking" ! they are ACTING , they are giving HELP and PLANNING to delete and put end to kurdish movement in north....

and by my idea, this JINSA's action should be Hold as Jews Action .
if jews dont try to stop them.

[dyaoko]

the answer of your question : Sweden .

Sweden gov and Swedish ppl have been the most loyal friends of ALL OF THE kurds (not juss the kurds that hate arabs....)

but when it comes to qunatinty ...you are right there are more jews that talk about indenence of SOUTH kurdistan (just arab hater)

thats pretty normall when I go to areminan forums and see how they hate turks...then I love them ! ...if Aremina was 4 part and one part would hated just turks and the other part hated iranians blah blah...

it would be in my BENEFIT to support those who hate turks....and it isnt like I give them an special thing ! we both hate Turks so we help each other... roll:

[Emmunah]

the ony swede i know pushing hard for kurdish independence is the jewish guy...can't think of his name.

but i asked "what county in the middle east"? Even including the caucuses and the mediteranian.

and JINSA is a place where people go to work and think stuff up...most is thrown away. It's a "think tank". There are 100's of them in the US.

I just don't see how it can be at all good to focus time on those who are against kurdistan. People who write that crap...we are not going to change their mind. They get tons of hate mail...and our mail would be just another deleted piece. It is better to reward those who are working for Kurds. This way, they will write more about Kurds because instead of getting hate mail they will get a nice letter. Don't you like to get nice letters? does any nasty letter ever change you so much? when you get nice letters....somewhere in your heart don't you think of writing more of the same because you know your readers will read it and like it? This is human psychology 101...and it's so easy to spend hours doing arguing with opponenets...it's so tempting...and yet....how much better to thank those like "rancher" and "pamela" or other famous people for their support.

[Emmunah]

look here...this even shocked me to laughter...i can't believe there are this many. must be the number one employer in washington besides politics
http://www.csuchico.edu/~kcfount/alpha.html