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Israel Supports Turkey more than USA

PostAuthor: dyaoko » Sun Aug 28, 2005 2:02 am

today I read this article in Turkish Daily, in which it says

Turks are concerned about the recent Pact that been signed between USA and Israel . in which Israel will have to tell USA , which weapons they will sell to other countries... (actually that pact was signed last month so Israel donst sell weapon to China anymore)

But Turkey still worries that it may stop buying some weapons that they buy from israel.
Acording to that article, America doesnt sell some kind of dangrous weapons to Turkey, and turkey has used "to buy them from Israel !'

What does it mean ? (it meas America had felt A VERY LITTLE PITTY for Kurds and thought that Turkey would kill all of the Kurds with those weapons and didnt sell those weapons to turkey ...but Israelis didnt give a a shit that what the Turks are gonna do with these dangrous weapons and has sold it to turkey...and turks are gonna worry that this PACT that been signed betweeen israle and usa [FOR CHINA] may stop their Dear source of weapons ...)

read the full article bellow:
Turks worry US-Israeli pact may hurt their war procurement
http://northerniraq.info/news/index.php ... 1#more1003

I used to hear "which country accept kurdistan ...that you expect israel to accept kurdistan ..." now I ask "which country has accepted to sell those dangrous weapons to Turkey except Israel ? "

I guess we kurds shouldnt ask israel to support us, because they will never do that.. and it is not in their intrest to help us but we may just Sarcasm-ly tell them "Dear Israel We dont need your support, if you just dont harm us ,,,we will do fine alone . thank you "
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:23 am

Kurds need weapons too from Israel to fight Iran for instance. Stop being so super anti-Israel. There are Israel people in favour of Kurds and Israel who just work together with Turkey for money/water. They are doing what every country does.

One of the reasons why Israel also is supporting Kurds.. is that the stupid PKK used to be against jews/Israel and worked together with PLO.

Uri Avnery: "I expressed my support "as a human being, an Israeli and a Jew". As an Israeli, I vigorously object to the Israeli-Turkish military pact, which is being used against he Kurds. As a Jew, I fight against all forms of genocide and mass-expulsion. I mentioned that for thousands of years, Kurds and Jews had lived together. Thunderous applause. I denounced the genocide on Kosovo and warned that similar things may happen in Turkey. Every sentence was translated into Kurdish, and the reaction of the masses was intense. They were glad to hear a voice from Israel saying this. After me spoke Lord Hylton from England, a Bask Leader, a Greek professor, an Italian senator."
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:43 pm

I am not anti-israel . and never I will be. it is not my favor to be against jews. I have nothing to do with anti jewish ppl .

I am a kurd, and I am angrey when I see young kurds , those who love kurdistan most, are being killed by israeli weapons.

yeah I SO SO agree that jew ppl are so nice ppl ...has their government done anything for kurd except Harming them ? :roll:
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PostAuthor: Mosul » Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:02 pm

i really dont like the israeli government, they have done nothing but harm people all over the middle east.

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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:04 pm

Mosul wrote:i really dont like the israeli government, they have done nothing but harm people all over the middle east.


Mosul, I want to make it clear , I hate it , if ppl think I agree with you
you are obviously a narrow minded muslem.

how dou you claim israel has done Harm tO "all of the ppl" in the middle
east?thats a pretyy stupid idea,

1-we heared last week , israel left the occupied cities for arabs...
the occupied lands that THEY "HAD TO" OCCUPY IT ,
because Arabs (egypet) had attacked to israel, and israel HAD to occoupy that land .
and now after all these years, they left EVERYTHING for arabs...the land that they had occupied was a desert , now it is full buildings.

2-if kurd's occupiers had given the rights that israel has given to arabs, to kruds, we kurds would never riot , or may be we would never ask for independece...in israel everythng is in both hebrew and arabic...

3....and many many things that I dont bother mentining

just something mosul ,I hate you Anti Jew Muslems , The MOst in this world.,

you hate Jews because you see the world by Islamic window...

that will make me feel sick of myself , if one day ppl think I agree with ppl like you.

Israel is giving weapon to turkey for its intrest...and Iam angrey with that . thats all . that doenst mean I hate jews like you stupid Muslems....
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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:14 pm

dyaoko wrote:
Mosul wrote:i really dont like the israeli government, they have done nothing but harm people all over the middle east.


Mosul, I want to make it clear , I hate it , if ppl think I agree with you
you are obviously a narrow minded muslem.

how dou you claim israel has done Harm tO "all of the ppl" in the middle
east?thats a pretyy stupid idea,

1-we heared last week , israel left the occupied cities for arabs...
the occupied lands that THEY "HAD TO" OCCUPY IT ,
because Arabs (egypet) had attacked to israel, and israel HAD to occoupy that land .
and now after all these years, they left EVERYTHING for arabs...the land that they had occupied was a desert , now it is full buildings.

2-if kurd's occupiers had given the rights that israel has given to arabs, to kruds, we kurds would never riot , or may be we would never ask for independece...in israel everythng is in both hebrew and arabic...

3....and many many things that I dont bother mentining

just something mosul ,I hate you Anti Jew Muslems , The MOst in this world.,

you hate Jews because you see the world by Islamic window...and that will make me feel sick of myself , if one day ppl think I agree with narrow minded like you Mosul.

Israel is giving weapon to turkey for its intrest...and Iam angrey with that . thats all . that doenst mean I hate jews like you stupid Muslems....


PUT YOUR TOUNGE WHERE IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE - AND STOP TALKING SHIT ABOUT ISLAM!

WHAT SOME MUSLIMS DO DOES NOT REPRESENT ISLAM!
SO STOP BEING SO RASCIST! "YOU STUPID MUSLIMS" IS THE MOST IGNORANT AND PREJUDICE THING YOU HAVE SAID SO FAR! AND YOU ALWAYS SAY VERY STUPID THINGS... STOP ATTACKING ISLAM YOU LITTLE DWARF!
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PostAuthor: pepula » Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:03 pm

hey even if you dont agree with something..always remember to respect others' opinions and beliefs. RESPECT
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:08 pm

WHAT SOME MUSLIMS DO DOES NOT REPRESENT ISLAM!
SO STOP BEING SO RASCIST! "YOU STUPID MUSLIMS" IS THE MOST IGNORANT AND PREJUDICE THING YOU HAVE SAID SO FAR! AND YOU ALWAYS SAY VERY STUPID THINGS... STOP ATTACKING ISLAM YOU LITTLE DWARF


when I used the phrase "You Stupid Muslems' I reffer to Those Muslems" who are Anti Jew" ...
and I am sorry I have no respect for the muslems who hate jews.
and yeah I call them stupid, and thats my opinion , becasue they are stupid.
I never called ALL of the muslems stupid .

Diri if you re-read what you said, you will feel shame for what you said.
just read it word by word and I am not gonna reply you . (I put that time for better things)
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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:41 pm

dyaoko wrote:
WHAT SOME MUSLIMS DO DOES NOT REPRESENT ISLAM!
SO STOP BEING SO RASCIST! "YOU STUPID MUSLIMS" IS THE MOST IGNORANT AND PREJUDICE THING YOU HAVE SAID SO FAR! AND YOU ALWAYS SAY VERY STUPID THINGS... STOP ATTACKING ISLAM YOU LITTLE DWARF


when I used the phrase "You Stupid Muslems' I reffer to Those Muslems" who are Anti Jew" ...
and I am sorry I have no respect for the muslems who hate jews.
and yeah I call them stupid, and thats my opinion , becasue they are stupid.
I never called ALL of the muslems stupid .

Diri if you re-read what you said, you will feel shame for what you said.
just read it word by word and I am not gonna reply you . (I put that time for better things)



You ignoramous! You are rascist!
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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:43 pm

Let's put it in context:

"that doenst mean I hate jews like you stupid Muslems...."

So you don't hate jews like stupid muslims do... RIGHT? Get a LIFE WILL YOU??? You should get rid of all that prejudice...
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PostAuthor: kardox » Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:37 pm

Israel needs non-arab Muslim allies. If you had to chose between 40 million stateless kurds and one fascist militant state what would you do ? :roll: :roll:
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PostAuthor: pepula » Mon Aug 29, 2005 5:50 pm

choose the kurds....the kurds!!!
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PostAuthor: McKurd » Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:01 pm

You can either debate for Israeli people or for the Israeli government. There is a clear distinction between these two terms which need to be made.

E.g. the Muslim society is not terrible, it is not this I should hate but what it respresents. Let me make it clear, I cannot hate a turk, I can only hate what he represents.

Just because Washington DC is under rule of AIPAC and just because JINSA resents the PKK and want to eliminate Kurdish nationalism in Bakur (Turkey occupied part of Kurdistan) doesnt mean Jews as a people resents a Kurdish state. Governmental actions differs a lot from public view.

I guess Im talking a lot of rubbish now...it's late and I'm the newbie 8) ! Well well...laters!
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:39 pm

McKurd wrote:Just because Washington DC is under rule of AIPAC and just because JINSA resents the PKK and want to eliminate Kurdish nationalism in Bakur (Turkey occupied part of Kurdistan) doesnt mean Jews as a people resents a Kurdish state. Governmental actions differs a lot from public view.

I guess Im talking a lot of rubbish now...it's late and I'm the newbie 8) ! Well well...laters!


yeah I agree, and I hate it , when Extremist Muslems atttack to Israel . like "all of the middle eastern prblems is because of israel"'
thats pretty radicolus and wrong .

we kurds should JUST care for our own national intrest, if jews sell weapon to turks we must be sad about it...and Discourage them not to do that.

but that doenst mean we go in the way that arab nationalist go , and hate Israel . Israel can be a very good alley for kurds...but unfortunately the destiny and the world wide politics has kept us Far from each other and has made israel to help turkey against us. :(

by the way McKurd I welcome you to this forum, I hope you enjoy discussing in KBU :wink:
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The Genetic Bonds Between Kurds and Jews
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