something wrong ladies??

[kardox]

hey there, as we know we have to build our "Iraq" from stretch. And the constitution was signed today and it is being send to a referendum in mid. October. I was just wondering if you ladies could find a mistake from the text that i will quote here:

"We the sons of Mesopotamia, land of the prophets, resting place of the holy imams, the leaders of civilization and the creators of the alphabet, the cradle of arithmetic: on our land, the first law put in place by mankind was written; in our nation, the most noble era of justice in the politics of nations was laid down; on our soil, the followers of the prophet and the saints prayed, the philosophers and the scientists theorized and the writers and poets created. "




thx

[Rumtaya]

hey there, as we know we have to build our "Iraq" from stretch. And the constitution was signed today and it is being send to a referendum in mid. October. I was just wondering if you ladies could find a mistake from the text that i will quote here:

"We the sons of Mesopotamia, land of the prophets, resting place of the holy imams, the leaders of civilization and the creators of the alphabet, the cradle of arithmetic: on our land, the first law put in place by mankind was written; in our nation, the most noble era of justice in the politics of nations was laid down; on our soil, the followers of the prophet and the saints prayed, the philosophers and the scientists theorized and the writers and poets created.

i think 80% of that things which are described in that text are devloped by assyrians and babyloniens.

[kardox]

agreed, but im sure if u and me toke a DNA tset, it will show that we are not so far from each other anyways. Many ASSYRIANS have kurdish bold and the other way around.

but thats another discussion my friend.

thx

[Rumtaya]

that could be but its far far far away cause that would be then before jesus came to earth from there assyrians just mixed with christian people mostly with armenian.

but my forfathers used to mix with other cultures that they assimlate the others so that could be also happen with the forfathers of kurds.

[Diri]

that could be but its far far far away cause that would be then before jesus came to earth from there assyrians just mixed with christian people mostly with armenian.

but my forfathers used to mix with other cultures that they assimlate the others so that could be also happen with the forfathers of kurds.

Nope Rumtaya - You mean that would be in large numbers from before KURDS became Muslim - then there were many Christian Kurds who now are Muslim... And many Christian Kurds are now Assyrians... Because that was A LONG TIME AGO! 1300 years ago at least...

[Rumtaya]

but they would still speak their language if this christian kurds are today assyrians.


by the way there are also many assyrians who become kurds after the genozid.


the story about that the assyrian did told you in meic forum

[Diri]

but they would still speak their language if this christian kurds are today assyrians.


by the way there are also many assyrians who become kurds after the genozid.


the story about that the assyrian did told you in meic forum

What do you mean they would speak their own language? There are still Kurds who are Christians - and there were SOME Kurds who assimilated into Assyrians - and some Assyrians who assimilated into Kurds...


Story about what? The genocide?
He is AN ASSHOLE to say the least - I don't even reply to what he says... He needs to cool of - he thinks Kurds are to blame for EVERYTHING... But he can go and hang himself... He won't get any friends with his empty words... He only earns enemies for Assyrians... Just ask other people here and MEIC!

[Mosul]

dont expect to get any answer out this assyrian scum

[pepula]

sexist pigs. one day we women will have control over the sexist pigs of the middle east.

[kardox]

many kurds become Assyro/kheldans because before nationality was not that essential. They had something in commen, and that was their religion. Could u imagine kurdish Christians moving together with other Christians because they were under press from the Muslims ??


thx

and ladies.. were are you ... they are "eating ur rights" .
I wounder why no one told them to change it , am I the only one that can see something is wrong, or is god a man ?

[Mosul]

i dont see anything wrong in that statement kardoz, seems good to me, everything they say in their is true.

[McKurd]

"We the sons of Mesopotamia, land of the prophets, resting place of the holy imams, the leaders of civilization and the creators of the alphabet, the cradle of arithmetic: on our land, the first law put in place by mankind was written; in our nation, the most noble era of justice in the politics of nations was laid down; on our soil, the followers of the prophet and the saints prayed, the philosophers and the scientists theorized and the writers and poets created. "
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Excuzes moi! Kurdish women are one of the most striking creatures ever if taking a sneak peek in history books. What ever happened to "debi mafi jinan beparezi"?

Let me take you back in time:

During the Roman time, historians reported widely about armed Kurdish women who wore colourful clothes (I guess they refer to "krasi Kurdi") and fought together with men to defend themselves from the Romans. As late as the 17th century, Kurdish tribes prepared both men and women for war on same conditions.

In 1923 the British explorer EG Driver had a remarkable experience with Kurdish women. “They do not wear veil and are allowed great freedom but they also carry out great parts of the manual work” he noted.

As late as the 1900’s, it was not unusual with female tribe leaders. If the leader himself died or lost his honour, the responsibility went over to his wife and not, as in early Christianity and Islam, to the oldest son. The last tribe leader whom was forced to surrender to the Persian shah’s forces “harki” was led by a woman in 1928.

This is some heavy stuff, another clear example of the great Kurdish equality/culture is also found at the Kurdish Jews who early on adapted a custom with strong women. The first woman rabbi is said to be a Kurd. It was during the 1600’s and the rabbi was called Arsenath Barzani.


So yes something is wrong. Kurdish men AND women have stayed strong and united together. They have fought, cherished and passed on our Kurdish rights so don't get me started on the Kurdish female peshmerga fighters. That's a chapter of its own.

My question is why? How could this be possible and where are our strong female voices in the parliament?
I trongly doubt this and must ask for a reliable source please!

[dyaoko]

"We the sons of Mesopotamia, land of....
thx

you know what is the problem kardox ? the problem is arabic language.
arabs have Male - and Female , and they have Single - Doubble- and Plural , subjects.

so if they wanted to say it right,
they had to make the conttinttion be written in 23000000000000 pages. he he

thats why Quran is also confusing....because in Quran God always just reffered to males...and just sometimes reffered to females(that makes confusion and also devision in islam...)

the solution is to ask the Iraqi palliament to Delete everything they have written and re-write everything in Kurdish .

[McKurd]

Dyako that's a lame ass excuse. This is no kid's game or whatever. It's the real world. If it so would take them passing ten deadlines to find a word replacing "sons" which refers to BOTH genders then so be it. As long as democracy is in process and the Kurds can eventually "secede" for federalism.

This establishment, the basic, fundamental society "rule" took USA a decade to finish. Why should we be in a hurry? I have waited 19 years for this, may as well wait some more.

[Vladimir]

Excuzes moi! Kurdish women are one of the most striking creatures ever if taking a sneak peek in history books. What ever happened to "debi mafi jinan beparezi"?

Let me take you back in time:

During the Roman time, historians reported widely about armed Kurdish women who wore colourful clothes (I guess they refer to "krasi Kurdi") and fought together with men to defend themselves from the Romans. As late as the 17th century, Kurdish tribes prepared both men and women for war on same conditions.

In 1923 the British explorer EG Driver had a remarkable experience with Kurdish women. “They do not wear veil and are allowed great freedom but they also carry out great parts of the manual work” he noted.

As late as the 1900’s, it was not unusual with female tribe leaders. If the leader himself died or lost his honour, the responsibility went over to his wife and not, as in early Christianity and Islam, to the oldest son. The last tribe leader whom was forced to surrender to the Persian shah’s forces “harki” was led by a woman in 1928.

This is some heavy stuff, another clear example of the great Kurdish equality/culture is also found at the Kurdish Jews who early on adapted a custom with strong women. The first woman rabbi is said to be a Kurd. It was during the 1600’s and the rabbi was called Arsenath Barzani.

Please could you tell me the source of this. What history book? I never heard of Kurdish women in the times of the Roman empire.