Talabani: Fighting Turkish government is insult to Kurds

[Piling]

There are PJAK in Iran too.

[shino]

the Kurds and PKK don' t want to fight with weapons, but Turkey has allways obliged them. the kurdish gerilla has since many years allways proposed a political dialogue and has made many cease-fires. besides almost all the political kurdish parties in turkey have allways been dissolved and oft the members killed. Turkey has allways given a military answer to the peaceful and democratic initiatives of Kurds. Turkey is responsible for war and not PKK. That doens't mean that I am a fanatic of Ocalan, but we must see the reality like it is.
Talabani is dangerous, because he' s ready to compromise the interests and rights of the kurdish people for his ambition.

[kurdistani]

Give me Barzni any day... mind you I think Nechirvan Barzani is MUCH better than Massud.... he doesn't speak Arabic....

[tomjez]

Yeah, not speaking a language is a proof of intelligence.

[kurdistani]

Yeah, not speaking a language is a proof of intelligence.

He does on the otherhand speak Farsi, Turkish, Pashtun, Kurdish and English

[tomjez]

WHAT he speaks turkish??? He is a traitor!!

[kurdistani]

WHAT he speaks turkish??? He is a traitor!!

Well Azeri Turkish...

[tomjez]

Then is a traitor to armenian-kurdish great alliance!!!!!

[kurdistani]

Then is a traitor to armenian-kurdish great alliance!!!!!

I don't think Armenian Kurdish relations are that far progressed to call it an alliance yet.....

[Mosul]

shame on any of you who insult talabani the frist kurdish president of Iraq, he is a hero for all kurds everwere in the middle east.

[dyaoko]

for we kurds , Turkey is even so much worse than bin laden.

Turkey had been one of the worst diactorship against Kurds but it is not the case now. Syrian and Iran are more oppressive than Turkey. And Talabani is a clever politician. He know that a Kurdish state (independant or not) could not survive by fighting Turkey or refusing partnership. It could be a suicide.

Iran is so much better than Turkey , SO SO SO MUCH better.
here Kurdistan word is being used .
here we have had KURD TV for 6-8 years (abd we used to have a a weekyl TV program for 22 years)
here we can buy kurdish books and we have soem kurdish weeklys in kurdish....you know what ? at least iranians are not racist...they are just opressive. they are more islamic than racist...they never denied our existance.

how do you really claim turkey is better than iran ...i am in iran and I tell you it is better than Turkey , FOR SURE.

Shino Said

he Kurds and PKK don' t want to fight with weapons, but Turkey has allways obliged them. the kurdish gerilla has since many years allways proposed a political dialogue and has made many cease-fires. besides almost all the political kurdish parties in turkey have allways been dissolved and oft the members killed. Turkey has allways given a military answer to the peaceful and democratic initiatives of Kurds. Turkey is responsible for war and not PKK. That doens't mean that I am a fanatic of Ocalan, but we must see the reality like it is.
Talabani is dangerous, because he' s ready to compromise the interests and rights of the kurdish people for his ambiti

totaly agree, Turkey always denied Kurds existance...and never wanted any solution for the problem...well why they should want a solution ? they have enough weapons to kill all of us...they have westerns support... and nobody gives a shit what they do to kurds.... and if Kurds hadnt took arm , nobody would even ADMIT they exist...

and about talebani, one of my friends talked to an expertise , and he told her, Talebani's character is to get more persnoal power and this Presidency will make him do whatever is needed to save his presidency...never in his life he had talked to other presidents as a President...he is being respected by world as a president....he wont dedicate this honor for Kurdistan ....

thats what he said.

[tomjez]

I didn't say it was always better, but at least NOW the situation is better with what happens in Mahabad. In the past clearly iranian regime didn't have the same racist policiy, I totally agree. Turkey today is not that bad, much better anyway thant it ever has been! You can also buy kurdish books, kurdish music, listen to kurdish concerts, there are some kurdish newspapers and kurdish broadcasting: nothing is as good as it should be, but 2005 turkey is not 1999 turkey, even if nobody here can (wants?) understand that!

[dyaoko]

I didn't say it was always better, but at least NOW the situation is better with what happens in Mahabad. In the past clearly iranian regime didn't have the same racist policiy, I totally agree. Turkey today is not that bad, much better anyway thant it ever has been! You can also buy kurdish books, kurdish music, listen to kurdish concerts, there are some kurdish newspapers and kurdish broadcasting: nothing is as good as it should be, but 2005 turkey is not 1999 turkey, even if nobody here can (wants?) understand that!

Iran Kurdistan Riot was one month , but Riots in Turkish kurdistan is none stop , you cant find a week in which less than 10 kurd or gurrilia be killed by Turks.
you cant find a week in Turkish kurdistan without riot...

but that happend in iranina kurdistan for one month, ... what happend to us in Iran is happening to northenr kurdistan everyday...and every week.

let me tell you something Mahabad is a City under Azerbaijan Provoince in Iran. much of the problem was because Of Racist Turks who govern Mahabad. [you know as iran is so shia ismalist , jsut shias can have job, and you know iranian Turks are shia , so Kurdish cities are governed by neighoubring Turk Shias , Turks always hated kurds...both because of we are sunny and they are shia and also because of ethnic...iranian turk governors abuse kurds...they rape to girls...they killed shwane and dragged his body so fiercly (mullahs usaly dotn do it ..only turks are that fierce ...)
I can tell you even "A PART" of the problem of iranian kurds is because of iranian Turks .

if you read KDPI -democratic party of iranian krudistan- which is in kurdish , they have recently published documents of Turks abusing kurds in Mahabad ...for example all of those who tortureed , Arrested ppl , were Turks , and they published repots of turks raping to kurds....

[kurdistani]

I didn't say it was always better, but at least NOW the situation is better with what happens in Mahabad. In the past clearly iranian regime didn't have the same racist policiy, I totally agree. Turkey today is not that bad, much better anyway thant it ever has been! You can also buy kurdish books, kurdish music, listen to kurdish concerts, there are some kurdish newspapers and kurdish broadcasting: nothing is as good as it should be, but 2005 turkey is not 1999 turkey, even if nobody here can (wants?) understand that!

Iran Kurdistan Riot was one month , but Riots in Turkish kurdistan is none stop , you cant find a week in which less than 10 kurd or gurrilia be killed by Turks.
you cant find a week in Turkish kurdistan without riot...

but that happend in iranina kurdistan for one month, ... what happend to us in Iran is happening to northenr kurdistan everyday...and every week.

let me tell you something Mahabad is a City under Azerbaijan Provoince in Iran. much of the problem was because Of Racist Turks who govern Mahabad. [you know as iran is so shia ismalist , jsut shias can have job, and you know iranian Turks are shia , so Kurdish cities are governed by neighoubring Turk Shias , Turks always hated kurds...both because of we are sunny and they are shia and also because of ethnic...iranian turk governors abuse kurds...they rape to girls...they killed shwane and dragged his body so fiercly (mullahs usaly dotn do it ..only turks are that fierce ...)
I can tell you even "A PART" of the problem of iranian kurds is because of iranian Turks .

if you read KDPI -democratic party of iranian krudistan- which is in kurdish , they have recently published documents of Turks abusing kurds in Mahabad ...for example all of those who tortureed , Arrested ppl , were Turks , and they published repots of turks raping to kurds....

Neghada is ten times worse.....

[tomjez]

Why would you call Azeris "turks"....Don't blame turkey for what iranian azeris do to kurds!!

If azeris are turks, kurds are farsi! If an Ouïghour commit a crime in China you will say "look what turks bastards do"???

And please: 5 PKK killed in a mountain, this is not a riot

Sometimes a few maoist or marxist guerilla are killed in Dersim, this does not create a "Maoïst riot" in Turkey.

Kurds from turkey are not "rioting". Only PKK, and it's weak. Or maybe I just missed the riots while travelling in Kurdistan. Too bad for me! 1 military control in 3 weeks (and it was close to syrian border)


But it's a good way to explain thing "Iran is not bad, what happens is because of turks"