Assyrian Chaldean?

[tomjez]

we`ll take back what was and is ours.

What's your plan?

[kurdistani]

we`ll take back what was and is ours.

What's your plan?

Retake Hakkari

[Piling]

we`ll take back what was and is ours.

So Tom has just enslaved Africans

In any case if you want to fight and make exploit stop talking and go to Hakkari. At least, even brainwashed, PKK fighters give their own blood for this land, what have you done for claiming it is yours ?

[tomjez]

No I don't enslave africans, I'm not from Nantes!

LOL "retake hakkari"

I had a dream...I saw turkish army and PKK fighting on the same side against the assyrian invasion.....beautiful!!!

[kurdistani]

we`ll take back what was and is ours.

So Tom has just enslaved Africans

In any case if you want to fight and make exploit stop talking and go to Hakkari. At least, even brainwashed, PKK fighters give their own blood for this land, what have you done for claiming it is yours ?

I think that the idea that some kind of Assyrian Homeland can be built out of the former Iraq is an impossible task... not that I am against it in principle... but most of the Christians in Iraq have fled... (becasue Muslims are bastards to them).... they don't make up the majority of the population in ANY region or province in Iraq.... Now if there could be a province created NOW which would have an Assyrian majority I would fully support the Assyrians pushing for a federal region in Iraq.... They have the right of national self determinations... However, if this is not possible I think that the KRG and Baghdad should encourge Assyrians to return to their native lands.... maybe there should be a cultural directorate set up in all regions historically home to the Assyrians with elected reps... its just an idea...

[Rumtaya]

Ehmm yes where did i said i want Hakkari back?

So Tom has just enslaved Africans
in any case if you want to fight and make exploit stop talking and go to Hakkari. At least, even brainwashed, PKK fighters give their own blood for this land, what have you done for claiming it is yours ?

who cares what tom did i wasnt talking about him but it seems you cant read right ?????? Are you french too pilling go you and the brits have to pray much for forgivness you looser european did made this blood in middle east all of your stupid conolialism opressing other people take away their goods and kill them betrayl on them you should be ashmed to call your self christians.

i use to say europeans are devils!

Hakkari was a place assyrians had to flee as the mongolians came around 1300 i dont claim it for an assyrian land its a place where like 95% kurds live and i think it will be part of kurdistan.

what i wanted to say if assyrians wouldnt be killed we could well inhabit the northen iraq you see my point of view?? Yes ok thanks

think that the idea that some kind of Assyrian Homeland can be built out of the former Iraq is an impossible task... not that I am against it in principle... but most of the Christians in Iraq have fled... (becasue Muslims are bastards to them).... they don't make up the majority of the population in ANY region or province in Iraq.... Now if there could be a province created NOW which would have an Assyrian majority I would fully support the Assyrians pushing for a federal region in Iraq.... They have the right of national self determinations... However, if this is not possible I think that the KRG and Baghdad should encourge Assyrians to return to their native lands.... maybe there should be a cultural directorate set up in all regions historically home to the Assyrians with elected reps... its just an idea...

If you say muslims do you just mean the arabs?????????? if yes you just see the mediallon from bouth site.

you know when assyrians fleed at majority time iraq?? no i can tell you it was betwenn the second gulf war and becuase of the kurdish pkk kdp fight.

assyrians had been between fronts everytime and everytime were forced to flee.

ok nice that you say we can get our historical places back and the fairst would be to etablish an assyria and kurdistan that peace come into that region.


but what do you see as assyria?? mousl(NINEVEH) and Ashur??? hmm well what would you do if i say arbil and kirkuk is also assyria(home land)

you dont agree with that.

but we will see what the future brings.


PS i wont take my land by killing people i wont do the mistake the other do to take country illigal of others.
i want to choose the fair and peacly way.

[kurdistani]

Ehmm yes where did i said i want Hakkari back?

So Tom has just enslaved Africans
in any case if you want to fight and make exploit stop talking and go to Hakkari. At least, even brainwashed, PKK fighters give their own blood for this land, what have you done for claiming it is yours ?

who cares what tom did i wasnt talking about him but it seems you cant read right ?????? Are you french too pilling go you and the brits have to pray much for forgivness you looser european did made this blood in middle east all of your stupid conolialism opressing other people take away their goods and kill them betrayl on them you should be ashmed to call your self christians.

i use to say europeans are devils!

Hakkari was a place assyrians had to flee as the mongolians came around 1300 i dont claim it for an assyrian land its a place where like 95% kurds live and i think it will be part of kurdistan.

what i wanted to say if assyrians wouldnt be killed we could well inhabit the northen iraq you see my point of view?? Yes ok thanks

think that the idea that some kind of Assyrian Homeland can be built out of the former Iraq is an impossible task... not that I am against it in principle... but most of the Christians in Iraq have fled... (becasue Muslims are bastards to them).... they don't make up the majority of the population in ANY region or province in Iraq.... Now if there could be a province created NOW which would have an Assyrian majority I would fully support the Assyrians pushing for a federal region in Iraq.... They have the right of national self determinations... However, if this is not possible I think that the KRG and Baghdad should encourge Assyrians to return to their native lands.... maybe there should be a cultural directorate set up in all regions historically home to the Assyrians with elected reps... its just an idea...

If you say muslims do you just mean the arabs?????????? if yes you just see the mediallon from bouth site.

you know when assyrians fleed at majority time iraq?? no i can tell you it was betwenn the second gulf war and becuase of the kurdish pkk kdp fight.

assyrians had been between fronts everytime and everytime were forced to flee.

ok nice that you say we can get our historical places back and the fairst would be to etablish an assyria and kurdistan that peace come into that region.


but what do you see as assyria?? mousl(NINEVEH) and Ashur??? hmm well what would you do if i say arbil and kirkuk is also assyria(home land)

you dont agree with that.

but we will see what the future brings.


PS i wont take my land by killing people i wont do the mistake the other do to take country illigal of others.
i want to choose the fair and peacly way.

No I mean all Muslims.....
Assyria is assyria... all the terrirtory that was the core of the Assyrian state in year X B.C.... However, a 'pactical' Assyria is any place where Assyrians are in the majority or are the largest pluarity. If such a territory cannot be found... then I think that an Assyrian council should be set up to oversee Assyrian language education... I also think they should be an Assyrian development program to rebuild villages and help Assyrians back to their homelands... Becasue the Assyrian-Chaldian-Syrac population is so spread out.... it is impractical to build a state as it is... they are in a see of Muslims and trapped between the Arab and Kurdish struggle... it is not a good position to be in... some Assyrians have become Arabists while others have supported the Kurdish movement... Still more have fled... My immidate advice to Assyrians would be that There should be an Assyrian Committee set up as soon as possible... to build relations with the Kurds and Arabs in the region....

[Rumtaya]

I see you are a person of honor.

yes your right we have a assosiation called assyrian universal organisation who suppourts the assyrians to get their lands back in northen iraq.

and your right the people should go on for work in peace way and this devil country which was etablished from british people should be taken out of the history and separtate in four areas kurdish norhtostiraq, assyrian northmiddle and abit of west and the arabs can have the middle iraq and south iraq.

i think then well have peace aslong the holy tragodie in iraq happend because of this black death "oil".

[Piling]

Are you french too pilling go you and the brits have to pray much for forgivness you looser european did made this blood in middle east all of your stupid conolialism opressing other people take away their goods

bla bla bla...

Well I did not constate that Assyrians, if they are sons of Ancient Assyrian Empire, set a peaceful and kind rule on the Middle East... They were very proud to be a military imperialist people at this time... Just look at carved stones panels in the Louvre and British museums : massacres, burned cities, deportations, conquests on all the region... It is like these Arabs who claimed that Crusaders were very bad people because they invaded them, while they forgot that they have invaded Arameans...

Tom : Serais-tu un des rares Bretons à laisser Nantes à la Loire Atlantique ?

[kurdistani]

I see you are a person of honor.

yes your right we have a assosiation called assyrian universal organisation who suppourts the assyrians to get their lands back in northen iraq.

and your right the people should go on for work in peace way and this devil country which was etablished from british people should be taken out of the history and separtate in four areas kurdish norhtostiraq, assyrian northmiddle and abit of west and the arabs can have the middle iraq and south iraq.

i think then well have peace aslong the holy tragodie in iraq happend because of this black death "oil".

However... I would say that the Assyrians would do well to work with the Kurdish movement simply becasue it is more secular and may well help to re establish Assyrian villages... this has been done in regions near Dohuk and Zakho... I really think the Assyrian news agency is run by Arab nationalist who want to divide the Assyrian and Kurdish population......
When I was in Kurdistan (I am now in the UK) I saw some problems between the Turkoman and Kurds is Irbil... but never did I see any problems between Christians and Kurds......

[Mosul]

no i am not brit ramtaya i am a Kurd from Mosul, the truth is, is that assryains will never get any land in the middle east, and notice how i say middle east and not just iraq,


kurdistani kurds treat assyrians better then anyone in iraq, and kurds are muslims, so dont make a comment like that.

[Rumtaya]

no i am not brit ramtaya i am a Kurd from Mosul, the truth is, is that assryains will never get any land in the middle east, and notice how i say middle east and not just iraq,


kurdistani kurds treat assyrians better then anyone in iraq, and kurds are muslims, so dont make a comment like that.

Why cant we have a country in middle east?? Why should then Kurds have one??? give me a reason!

and do you heard the sentens Never say Never.

Well my friend but your kurdish politic is not always kind to other people.

A short example do you heard about the TUR ABDIN in Turkey?

this place was before some 20 years full with Assyrians but as the PKK war started they fleed now there are some who wants back but there are kurds settled on their earth and dont want to leave so what you call that??????

is it now also kurdistan which was settled before since 3000 years always from assyrians.

[kurdistani]

no i am not brit ramtaya i am a Kurd from Mosul, the truth is, is that assryains will never get any land in the middle east, and notice how i say middle east and not just iraq,


kurdistani kurds treat assyrians better then anyone in iraq, and kurds are muslims, so dont make a comment like that.

Why cant we have a country in middle east?? Why should then Kurds have one??? give me a reason!

and do you heard the sentens Never say Never.

Well my friend but your kurdish politic is not always kind to other people.

A short example do you heard about the TUR ABDIN in Turkey?

this place was before some 20 years full with Assyrians but as the PKK war started they fleed now there are some who wants back but there are kurds settled on their earth and dont want to leave so what you call that??????

is it now also kurdistan which was settled before since 3000 years always from assyrians.

Never say Never...
But the point is that it will be very hard to create an Assyrian sate becasuse Assyrians are a. divide amongst themselves (like Kurds in many ways but it is more serious becasue there are less Assyrians) b. there is not enough Assyrians to make up the majority of a economically viable state....
You mention that there is an Area in Turkey that was full of Assyrians... The Turkish don't even allow the word 'Kurdistan'... they will not allow 'Assyria'... I think that for now Assyrians should concentrate on organising the reconstruction of villages and rebuilding the Assyrian population....
I once spoke to a Kurdish official... he said that a group of Assyrians had come to him with a map of Assyria which included Diyarbekir Dohuk, Irbil, Mardi and Hakkari... no that guy said he understood why the Assyrians were making this claim but he said it was counter productive... In no area of this map of Assyria did Assyrians make up a majority... thus to set up such a satte would either involve mass ethnic cleansing or would mean that Assyrians would be a minority in their own country and would have to resort to military means to maintain control... futhermore, claiming lands in Turkey is impractical since the Turkis see their land as god given....
As I said the Assyrians should concentrate on strengthing Assyrian culture and rebuilding Assyrian villages... Many Assyrian talk the nationalist talk (fair enough) but are unwilling to leave their lives in the US or Sweden to rebuild Assyria.....

[Rumtaya]

That with turkey and assyria i didnt man that and i dont want a part of turkia for assyrians.

i just want a place in iraq assyrians can live after their rule no ruling by islamic laws or other things.

there are areas with majority of assyrians but between them there do live some shabak kurds.

but your right with some assyrians dont want to go rebuild their homes cause they used to live in america europa etc. but times have to change and everyone who love his nation and cutlure will do something for assyria the others i aint care about should they go assimilate those losers.

but i by my self will work for that to rebuild assyrian villages.

in god we trust all and we hope all for a good future.

[sal-Ah-uddin]

"Never say Never...
But the point is that it will be very hard to create an Assyrian sate becasuse Assyrians are a. divide amongst themselves (like Kurds in many ways but it is more serious becasue there are less Assyrians) b. there is not enough Assyrians to make up the majority of a economically viable state....
You mention that there is an Area in Turkey that was full of Assyrians... The Turkish don't even allow the word 'Kurdistan'... they will not allow 'Assyria'... I think that for now Assyrians should concentrate on organising the reconstruction of villages and rebuilding the Assyrian population....
I once spoke to a Kurdish official... he said that a group of Assyrians had come to him with a map of Assyria which included Diyarbekir Dohuk, Irbil, Mardi and Hakkari... no that guy said he understood why the Assyrians were making this claim but he said it was counter productive... In no area of this map of Assyria did Assyrians make up a majority... thus to set up such a satte would either involve mass ethnic cleansing or would mean that Assyrians would be a minority in their own country and would have to resort to military means to maintain control... futhermore, claiming lands in Turkey is impractical since the Turkis see their land as god given....
As I said the Assyrians should concentrate on strengthing Assyrian culture and rebuilding Assyrian villages... Many Assyrian talk the nationalist talk (fair enough) but are unwilling to leave their lives in the US or Sweden to rebuild Assyria....."
kurdistani

exactly kurdistani, exactly! the assyrians dont make a majority anywere in the middle east, and that is why its so funny when they make cliams like our falah ramtayah. and u want to know why we dont support a assyrians state? BECUAUSE ASSYRIANS CLAIM LAND THIS IS KURDISH, AND WERE KURDS ARE A OVERWHELMING MAJORITY, you get it christian arab?????