Navigator
Facebook
Search
Ads & Recent Photos
Recent Images
Welcome To Roj Bash Kurdistan 

Nineveh History(mousl/musil)

A place for discussion and exchanging ideas about Kurdistan issues here, also a place for sharing article & views and analysis about Kurdistan .

Nineveh History(mousl/musil)

PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:23 pm

Ancient and Ottoman Mosul
The area around Mosul has been continuously inhabited for at least 8,000 years. The city itself was founded by the Assyrians as an outpost or citadel located on the hill of Q'leat on the right bank of the Tigris, across from the ancient city of Ninevah (now the town of Ninewa). In approximately 850 BC, King Assurnasirpal II of Assyria chose the city of Nimrud to build his capital city where present day Mosul is located. In approximately 700 BC, King Sennacherib made Nineveh the new capital of Assyria. The mound of Kuyunjik in Mosul is the site of the palaces of King Sennacherib and his grandson Ashurbanipal. Probably built on the site of an earlier Assyrian fortress, Mosul later succeeded Nineveh as the Tigris bridgehead of the road that linked Syria and Anatolia with Persia.

Mosul became an important commercial center in the 6th century BC. It was conquered briefly by the Roman Empire before falling under Muslim rule in 637 AD. It was promoted to the status of capital of Mesopotamia under the Umayyads in the 8th century, during which it reached a peak of prosperity. During the Abbassid era it was an important trading centre because of its strategic location, astride the trade routes to India, Persia and the Mediterranean. In 1127 it became the centre of power of the Zengid dynasty. Saladin besieged the city unsuccessfully in 1182 but in the 13th century it was conquered and destroyed by the Mongols; although it was later rebuilt under the rule of the Ottoman Empire and remained important, it did not regain its earlier grandeur. It remained under Ottoman control until 1918, with a brief break in 1623 when Persia seized the city for a short time, and was the capital of one of the three vilayets (provinces) of Ottoman Iraq (the other two being Baghdad and Basra).

The city is a historic center of Nestorian Christianity containing the tombs of several Old Testament prophets such as Jonah, who is commemorated in a rare joint Muslim/Christian shrine (originally a Nestorian church, now a mosque), and the somewhat more obscure Nahum.

to this one who wanted to put mosul too to his kurdish hermi can you read there its nestorian historic center do you know who are meaned here with Nestroian????? no i can help you they mean ASSYRIANS

Rumtaya
Ashna
Ashna
 
Posts: 803
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:33 pm
Highscores: 0
Arcade winning challenges: 0
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

Nineveh History(mousl/musil)

Sponsor

Sponsor
 

PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:30 pm

.. nice internet history
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

Vladimir
Shaswar
Shaswar
 
Posts: 2036
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2005 10:31 am
Highscores: 0
Arcade winning challenges: 0
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 2 times
Nationality: Hispanic

PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:51 pm

.. nice internet history


for sure its from the internet were should it be then from? from the moon like we assyrians came from lool.

Rumtaya
Ashna
Ashna
 
Posts: 803
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:33 pm
Highscores: 0
Arcade winning challenges: 0
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

PostAuthor: Mosul » Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:46 pm

yeah assyrians sure didnt come from Iraq thats what i know.

Mosul
Shermin
Shermin
 
Posts: 366
Joined: Mon May 30, 2005 11:39 pm
Location: Khalije
Highscores: 0
Arcade winning challenges: 0
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:35 pm

yeah assyrians sure didnt come from Iraq thats what i know.


your are right we didnt came to the name of Iraq the name came to our beloved mesopotamia.

Rumtaya
Ashna
Ashna
 
Posts: 803
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:33 pm
Highscores: 0
Arcade winning challenges: 0
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:04 pm

No, Mesopatamia is something different. Iraq can't be compared to Mesopotamia anymore.

Besides this.. how many Assyrians speak "Assyrian" Rumtaya??
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

Vladimir
Shaswar
Shaswar
 
Posts: 2036
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2005 10:31 am
Highscores: 0
Arcade winning challenges: 0
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 2 times
Nationality: Hispanic

PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:09 pm

No, Mesopatamia is something different. Iraq can't be compared to Mesopotamia anymore.

why cant it be compared? it was known till 1935 as mesopotamia.

Besides this.. how many Assyrians speak "Assyrian" Rumtaya??


in the whole world ca. 4 mio its divide into two dialects westernassyrian and easternassyrian.


western speaker live mostly in syria and turkey eastern abit syria(like me) iraq and iran.

by the way the language of today isnt what my forfathers talked before 2500 years we talk now a mix of assyrian which is a akkadian dialect with aramic the language is mostly knowen by us under syriac.

any question more?

Rumtaya
Ashna
Ashna
 
Posts: 803
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:33 pm
Highscores: 0
Arcade winning challenges: 0
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:11 pm

Why? Mesopotamia had other culture/beliefs..
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

Vladimir
Shaswar
Shaswar
 
Posts: 2036
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2005 10:31 am
Highscores: 0
Arcade winning challenges: 0
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 2 times
Nationality: Hispanic

PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:27 pm

Why? Mesopotamia had other culture/beliefs..


A. Should i jump now from the highest building in german

B. Should i laugh

C. Should i strat to cry

what does the name mesopotamia have to do with culture and belifes???

go ask greece people what the word mesopotamia means and then come back and say ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh your right

Rumtaya
Ashna
Ashna
 
Posts: 803
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:33 pm
Highscores: 0
Arcade winning challenges: 0
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:46 pm

Mesopotamia USED to be another country in history... Before Iraq, it was Ottoman Empire...

Don't talk shit to someone who studies history.
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

Vladimir
Shaswar
Shaswar
 
Posts: 2036
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2005 10:31 am
Highscores: 0
Arcade winning challenges: 0
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 2 times
Nationality: Hispanic

PostAuthor: Mosul » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:47 pm

vladmire dont waste your time with ramatayah he is an Assyrian.

Mosul
Shermin
Shermin
 
Posts: 366
Joined: Mon May 30, 2005 11:39 pm
Location: Khalije
Highscores: 0
Arcade winning challenges: 0
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:10 pm

Mesopotamia wasnt never a country you are studying something diffrent man.


ok for you valdemir


Mesopotamia is a greece word for Between two Rivers

its the area meand you know the two rivers Euphrat and Tigris.

Rumtaya
Ashna
Ashna
 
Posts: 803
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:33 pm
Highscores: 0
Arcade winning challenges: 0
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

PostAuthor: Lovetobewithfriends » Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:26 pm

Off Assyrian,Assyrian,Assyrian...when youu will be get bored?I heared Assyrians only is like historical subject.When did their national conscious originate?We are in feudal built.So our culture didn't change much.And lots of kurds don't forget who they are.And after changing feudal to modern built lots of new country were formed.I believe in Kurdistan will form.Because it is normal for our development period.And Assyrian have to respect a little at little.Anyway but i didn't heard about Assyrian's fight for their land.Maybe you are trying to do something but i din't heard but i only know you are origin as i understand for your name :)

Lovetobewithfriends
Shermin
Shermin
 
Posts: 132
Joined: Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:25 pm
Highscores: 0
Arcade winning challenges: 0
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

PostAuthor: Diri » Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:18 pm

Lovetobewithfriends wrote:Off Assyrian,Assyrian,Assyrian...when youu will be get bored?I heared Assyrians only is like historical subject.When did their national conscious originate?We are in feudal built.So our culture didn't change much.And lots of kurds don't forget who they are.And after changing feudal to modern built lots of new country were formed.I believe in Kurdistan will form.Because it is normal for our development period.And Assyrian have to respect a little at little.Anyway but i didn't heard about Assyrian's fight for their land.Maybe you are trying to do something but i din't heard but i only know you are origin as i understand for your name :)



Look - I know you are a Kurd in Istanbul - but please stop calling Kurdish culture "feudal"... Because THAT is what Turkey call Kurds to make us give up our culture... We are ESHIRET - that isn't the same as "feudal" - feudal is what the European countries had in the middle ages...

Be proud of Kurdayetî (Kurdishness)
Image
Image
User avatar
Diri
Shaswar
Shaswar
 
Posts: 6517
Joined: Thu May 12, 2005 11:59 am
Location: Norway
Highscores: 0
Arcade winning challenges: 0
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 10 times
Nationality: Kurd

PostAuthor: bamerni » Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:34 am

what i know about the iraq history is that iraq was belong to chirstan people. back then
User avatar
bamerni
Shermin
Shermin
 
Posts: 57
Joined: Tue May 31, 2005 11:34 pm
Location: usa
Highscores: 0
Arcade winning challenges: 0
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

Next

Return to Kurdistan Debates, Articles and Analysis

Who is online

Registered users: Bing [Bot], Majestic-12 [Bot]

x

#{title}

#{text}