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[Diri]

[tomjez]

Pffff

[Diri]

Pffff

What is THAT supposed to mean?

[tomjez]

Nobody likes uuus, we're oppreeeessed. If we don't have our state it's only the other's fauuuult. This is so PKK. If we failed, it's because there is an international plot against us.

[Diri]

Nobody likes uuus, we're oppreeeessed. If we don't have our state it's only the other's fauuuult. This is so PKK. If we failed, it's because there is an international plot against us.

What the f***? Don't you know ANYTHING besides the PKK? Is that all you think about when a KURD puts up a piece of art?


This is so low... You should stop GENERALIZING... And stop assuming you KNOW how I and other people here are... You don't know us... Stop acting like you do!

[tomjez]

OK I stop that. Then you stop trying to guess things about me as well. Deal?
Sorry I got angry, I just lost my nerves it's monday.

And I still believe this picture is stupid. European union is not doing anything to kurds.

[Diri]

OK I stop that. Then you stop trying to guess things about me as well. Deal?
Sorry I got angry, I just lost my nerves it's monday.

And I still believe this picture is stupid. European union is not doing anything to kurds.

That is not true... And if it were - THAT could be what is KILLING Kurdistan... I am not gonna go into depth discussion about the position of the EU in the context of the Kurdish issue - but I will tell you this: The EU has INFLUENCE... And it is not USING it in FAVOR of the Kurds and Kurdistan...

[tomjez]

EU pressure did a lot for human right improving in turkey for example, there are always pointing that problem in EU TURKEY negociations.
Otherwise they did bad things in considering that PKK was representative, but everyone did, and it is changing.

[Piling]

The fact is that without EU Turkey would have never start the smallest step of democratization. Not because European are angels, but they don't want any dictatorship in their private club. In the guest house, ok, but not in the living room.

[Diri]

The fact is that without EU Turkey would have never start the smallest step of democratization. Not because European are angels, but they don't want any dictatorship in their private club. In the guest house, ok, but not in the living room.

I don't think you are looking at both sides of the EU's membership talks with Turkey... You don't do that because I know you think that it is only GOOD for Kurds to enter the EU...

[Piling]

well some European are absolutely against Turkish candidacy, some others absolutely in favor... some for bad reasons (fear of islam), some for serious (what are European geographical limits ?)...

I think EU is a good thing for democratic Kurds and Turks and a bad thing for Turkish pro-war and PKK supporters because EU won't tolerate thatTurkey would be ruled by the army but in the same hand will strongly oppress PKK exactions.

In an economical point of view European rules could be strict for ppl in Turkey.

[tomjez]

That's why PKK is trying to jeopardize the negociations..

[Diri]

well some European are absolutely against Turkish candidacy, some others absolutely in favor... some for bad reasons (fear of islam), some for serious (what are European geographical limits ?)...

I think EU is a good thing for democratic Kurds and Turks and a bad thing for Turkish pro-war and PKK supporters because EU won't tolerate thatTurkey would be ruled by the army but in the same hand will strongly oppress PKK exactions.

In an economical point of view European rules could be strict for ppl in Turkey.

LOL - still you didn't manage to pull out the NEGATIVE sides of the EU membership for the KURDS... I'll give you a hint: You are only think "Turkey"...

[Piling]

Negative aspects for Kurds in UE ? No I don't see any one:? ... could you give me some example ?
The one negative aspect has been stressed by former French ambassador Bernard Dorin in a conference when he said that if Kurds in Turkey 'll become Europen it will share definitively Kurdistan between two continents.

[tomjez]

What you gonna do he is a Norwegian, they don't like EU, they prefer killing whales