France under fire from PKK and Turkey over murders

[Anthea]

RT NEWS

France under fire from both PKK and Turkey over Kurdish women’s murder



Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has demanded that France ‘immediately’ clarify the circumstances of the killing of three Kurdish activists who were shot dead in Paris, in particular the president’s ‘communication’ with ‘terrorists’.

­This follows the French president’s remarks that the killing of three Kurdish women on Thursday was “terrible”, adding that he knew one of the Kurdish women and that she "regularly met" with him.



France has also found itself under fire from the separatist PKK movement which warned that it would hold France responsible if the killers were not quickly found.

The triple murder triggered finger-pointing between the PKK and Turkey, with many Kurds blaming Ankara, and going so far as to call the deaths a ‘political assassination’.



The killing came at a sensitive time of talks between Ankara and the PKK leadership, with the sides having preliminarily agreed to end the three-decade conflict according to Turkish media report.

In an official statement, the PKK called the murder an "attempt to undermine" the talks between Turkey and Ocalan, with Turkish officials having suggested the act might be either part of “an internal feud” or an attempt to derail the talks.



The three victims of the attack were Sakine Casiz, a co-founder of the militant PPK, 32-year-old Fidan Dogan, a representative of the National Congress of Kurdistan, an organization based in Brussels, while the third woman was young activist Leyla Soylemez. The women are believed to have held Turkish passports. On Thursday, they were found shot dead in the Kurdish institute situated in the 10th district of Paris.

French Interior Minister Manuel Valls told France-Info radio after he visited the scene that the assassinations were “intolerable”, and “surely an execution.”

On Thursday, hundreds took to the streets of the French capital, after the Federation of Kurdish Associations in France (Feyka) called for a demonstration in Paris. The demonstrators were chanting "We are all PKK!" and "Turkey assassin, Hollande complicit," referring to French President Francois Hollande, AFP reported.

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[Piling]

'Under fire' is exaggerated. For the moment, there are no violence, just demonstrations, no riots. PKK will let not degenerate.

[Qonyeyi]

France is hell on earth. Paris is not the city of love, it is the city of collaborist imperialist forces coming together and killing the beauty of women's and people's freedom. France is a part of this killing. How else is someone able to do it in such a professional way? Two of the three women were under intelligence surveillance. I say France should find the murders in a hurry or they are like wise guilty.

[Anthea]

'Under fire' is exaggerated. For the moment, there are no violence, just demonstrations, no riots. PKK will let not degenerate.

They did not mean it in the literal sense of the word, it was more of a metaphor

[Piling]

France is a part of this killing.

Recep Tayyip Erdogan, get out this mouth !

[Anthea]

France is hell on earth. Paris is not the city of love, it is the city of collaborist imperialist forces coming together and killing the beauty of women's and people's freedom. France is a part of this killing. How else is someone able to do it in such a professional way?

Nobody could blame an entire city for the killing or these lovely ladies. Especially when it is extremely unlikely that the murders were carried out by French man.

France now suffers the same problems as many other countries, in that they been so kind and helpful in letting vast numbers of immigrants and refugees settle in their country they cannot keep track of them all and cannot guarantee that non of them will resort to criminal behaviour at some time or other

The likelihood is that the murderer come from Turkey and is of Turkish origin. Which brings me back to my previous point about France being so kind as letting so many refugees settle there that is will be extremely difficult to locate any specific Turk in a country so full of Turks.

Two of the three women were under intelligence surveillance

That being the case it would explain where the murders took place in the office rather than outside where the murderer would have been easily spotted by the surveillance teams.

It appears that the so-called office was in point of fact a flat. Therefore, surveillance teams would not be alarmed or alerted by any comings or goings to the property outside normal office hours.

As, and I think that we all believe this to be the case, the attack was preplanned the murderers would be highly unlikely to make themselves easily recognisable. I do NOT believe that anyone will dare to inform on the murderers. Only a complete and utter idiot would put their life and the lives of their family at risk to inform on these people who have already murdered 3 people. There would be NOWHERE safe for them in the ENTIRE WORLD.

I do NOT believe that the murderers will ever be caught alive. One possible scenario is that the person who ordered the murders will then order the murders of the original assassins.

[Piling]

How many people came to demonstrate ?

Official Account : 15 000 persons, but of course police estimations are always low and demonstrators don't agree. I don't know the number given by the Kurdish associations.

[Anthea]

How many people came to demonstrate ?

Official Account : 15 000 persons, but of course police estimations are always low and demonstrators don't agree. I don't know the number given by the Kurdish associations.

Possibly 20-25,000 people

[Qonyeyi]

To hell with official accounts. They are controlled by imperialist minds. Here in Denmark, close to 1000 people gathered in the centrum, with various prominent politicians and they only got 29 seconds of tv reporting in the media. Kurdish media say 100.000. That is also a little exxagerated I believe. Maybe at its peak it could have been 100.000 since a lot of people from surrounding cities and even surrounding countries came later on. I believe a realistic number would be 75.000.