3 Kurdish women shot inside the Kurdish Institute of Paris

[Qonyeyi]

Geliyor geliyor APOCULAR GELIYOR!

And Turkish is their beloved language… sigh…

Yeah it hurts right? Tens of thousands of Apocis commemorating their comrades. It must really hurt your heart and eyes to see that many Kurds gather in Paris.

Oh it was such a pleasure to listen to this mass singing Cerxa Sores and Ey Raqib. Ax, what luck we have in the plurilingual Apocis. We are not the enemies of a language like you. And the fact that many Kurds can not speak Kurdish is not a shame on us. It is a shame on the imperialist forces you collaborate with who imposed their languages on us. But you know, always look on the bright side of life - we are using their language to our own advantage

Tolhildan Tolhildan! Intikam Intikam!
Bi can bi xwin em bi tera ne ey serok.
Kurdistan fasistler mezar olacak! Kurdistan mezara fasista dibe!
Re ronahi di berfeda xwina shehida! Rebere me ye SEROK OCALAN!

[Qonyeyi]

Oh no! Apocis singing in KURDISH? That can not be! Piling do something!

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[Piling]

What is hurt is that they are more Turks than Kurds when they talk or shout their claim in Turkish while they call so easily other Kurds 'traitors' 'feudal' etc. Even their banners are so often written in Turkish. They venerate their enemies' language while they complain Kurdish is forbidden in Turkey. But in Europe they don't make no more effort to learn it.


And singing a few words for a song is fine. Now they just have to learn it to the crowd

[Qonyeyi]

Oh Pilling look, your lovely AKP/Gulen media Samanyolu ( closely related to the AKP/Gulen media Todayszaman that you thought we should share in the name of pluralism of informations) is actually endorsing the killing of these women! Oh so much for pluralism!

In Turkish it reads: '' Even if you live in any town of Anatolia/Turkey, you can not say that Paris is not better than all your cities! And the tweet is under the name '' Paris is now more beautiful''



Hmm, why did you not share this one in the name of pluralism of informations Pilling? We really expect you to share these kinds of stories with us oh guardian of Pluralism of Informations Pilling!

[Piling]

I wonder where you found that I love Gulen. My favorite Sufis are Ishraqî.

[Anthea]

What is hurt is that they are more Turks than Kurds when they talk or shout their claim in Turkish while they call so easily other Kurds 'traitors' 'feudal' etc. Even their banners are so often written in Turkish. They venerate their enemies' language while they complain Kurdish is forbidden in Turkey. But in Europe they don't make no more effort to learn it.

I have mentioned many times that my co-called Kurdish friends from NK do NOT bother to learn Kurdish and have TURKISH TV on all day. Also, children are stuck in from of the TURKISH TV and forced to learn TURKISH

If the parents are too lazy to learn Kurdish the least they could do is let their children learn ENGLISH instead of being born in England and NOT being able to understand any English until they go to school. Kurds from NK are teaching their children to become TURKS

[Nubahar]

PARIS

[Zert]

Geliyor geliyor APOCULAR GELIYOR!

And Turkish is their beloved language… sigh…

Yeah it hurts right? Tens of thousands of Apocis commemorating their comrades. It must really hurt your heart and eyes to see that many Kurds gather in Paris.

Oh it was such a pleasure to listen to this mass singing Cerxa Sores and Ey Raqib. Ax, what luck we have in the plurilingual Apocis. We are not the enemies of a language like you. And the fact that many Kurds can not speak Kurdish is not a shame on us. It is a shame on the imperialist forces you collaborate with who imposed their languages on us. But you know, always look on the bright side of life - we are using their language to our own advantage

Tolhildan Tolhildan! Intikam Intikam!
Bi can bi xwin em bi tera ne ey serok.
Kurdistan fasistler mezar olacak! Kurdistan mezara fasista dibe!
Re ronahi di berfeda xwina shehida! Rebere me ye SEROK OCALAN!

Oh, put a sock in it. Piling is a good user, and your allegations are ignorant as hell. She works at the Kurdish Institute of Paris, for Christ's sake.

Btw, she's got a point, many Kurds of the diaspora don't even bother learning Kurdish, and you know that's true.

[Appols]

PARIS

This is not Paris or a Kurdish demonstration, but a Spanish demonstration in Bilbao:

http://www.diario-octubre.com/2013/01/06/izquierda-abertzale-llama-a-toda-la-ciudadania-vasca-a-la-manifestacion-del-12-de-enero/

[Qonyeyi]

Oh, put a sock in it. Piling is a good user, and your allegations are ignorant as hell. She works at the Kurdish Institute of Paris, for Christ's sake.

Btw, she's got a point, many Kurds of the diaspora don't even bother learning Kurdish, and you know that's true.

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Read her post. Forget about who she is and what she works for. I don't care even if she worked as Apo's secretary. She is indirectly blaming PKK for all the Kurds who can not speak Kurdish or do not use Kurdish. Even though Serok Apo is a prophet, PKK is not God and can not force people to learn a certain language. They can open schools, courses and information centres ( like the one in Paris) and try to educate people. But PKK was not, is not and will not be held accountable for the Kurds who can not speak Kurdish. That shame can never be put upon PKK. That shame is only, and I say only, a shame that can be put on Turkey. Yes, we could discuss that PKK has not focused on Kurdish language enough but that is a whole other discussion.

As an example, I learned Kurdish by myself. I never expected any party or organisation to teach me or encourage me to learn it. I am not a nationalist, so it was never a matter of nationalist pride either. I know a lot around me who are in the same position. And to be quite honest, the main reason I wanted to learn Kurdish was to understand what was being said in Kurdish television, mainly ROJ TV, and to learn the lyrics of Kurdish folklore.

[dyaoko]

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Geliyor geliyor APOCULAR GELIYOR! They are coming they are coming, the Apoci are coming!

Sere gele Kurdistan saxbe!

Thank you this video made my day, I hope they keep do protest and make world medias cover, I hate world medias they never cover kurdish news

[dyaoko]

Oh, put a sock in it. Piling is a good user, and your allegations are ignorant as hell. She works at the Kurdish Institute of Paris, for Christ's sake.

Btw, she's got a point, many Kurds of the diaspora don't even bother learning Kurdish, and you know that's true.

Read her post. Forget about who she is and what she works for. I don't care even if she worked as Apo's secretary. She is indirectly blaming PKK for all the Kurds who can not speak Kurdish or do not use Kurdish. Even though Serok Apo is a prophet, PKK is not God and can not force people to learn a certain language. They can open schools, courses and information centres ( like the one in Paris) and try to educate people. But PKK was not, is not and will not be held accountable for the Kurds who can not speak Kurdish. That shame can never be put upon PKK. That shame is only, and I say only, a shame that can be put on Turkey. Yes, we could discuss that PKK has not focused on Kurdish language enough but that is a whole other discussion.

As an example, I learned Kurdish by myself. I never expected any party or organisation to teach me or encourage me to learn it. I am not a nationalist, so it was never a matter of nationalist pride either. I know a lot around me who are in the same position. And to be quite honest, the main reason I wanted to learn Kurdish was to understand what was being said in Kurdish television, mainly ROJ TV, and to learn the lyrics of Kurdish folklore.

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Lets not do personal attacks now,we need solidatary , this is a historic time for kurds in europe to show up and show how strong they can be,
piling is a great friend of Kurds, ofcrouse she has lots of crtictize to PKK, all parties have done many many mistakes that we can criticize them, but now we need unity in Europe to all kurds to show up in streets and shout Biji Kurdistan

[dyaoko]

Jiyar Gol's report of the demonstrations for BBC Persian

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as far as I see in the videos the slogans are either in Kurdish or French, and Turkish which is good. they should hear us in all languages. the turkish terrorists in Europe should hear us too, we are millions, we are all united and we all love kurdistan and will never stop fighting for our mountains.

[Piling]

Today another huge demonstration in Paris : the Anti Gay marriage. It would be fun if Kurds beat catholics in number competition.

[Piling]

And if Syria or Iran are behind it, will they demonstrate in Arabic or Persian ?