Killings in Paris : 2 persons in custody

[Fire]

Doing things for the sake of doing things. The French government knows very well who the murderer are but they must keep the rules of the game alive and must safe the murderer and the good Natopartner.(Turkey).

[Anthea]

World Bulletin

Paris killings suspect placed under formal investigation



According to investigators, video surveillance showed that Guney was in the apartment, or at least in the building, for 45 minutes at around the time of the murders.

A suspect detained last week over the killing of three Kurdish rebel activists in Paris was placed under formal investigation for murder on Monday, the Paris prosecutor said.

Thirty-year-old Omer Guney was the driver of one of the women who were shot in the head on Jan. 9 at an institute linked to the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), Prosecutor François Molins said.

Guney, who told prosecutors he had been a PKK member for two years, denied the charges.

"The presence of Omer Guney in the apartment within the time frame during which the triple murder took place, and without an explanation from him, gives us serious clues that suggest his participation in the acts committed on Jan. 9," Molins said.

According to investigators, video surveillance showed that Guney was in the apartment, or at least in the building, for 45 minutes at around the time of the murders.

One of the victims was a founding member of the PKK - which took up arms against the Turkish state in 1984 with the aim of carving out a Kurdish homeland in the southeast of Turkey.

The PKK has blamed the killings on shadowy elements within the Turkish state - which considers it a terrorist organisation - or foreign powers.

Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan has said initial evidence in the triple murder suggested the motive may be an internal feud in the PKK or a desire to derail peace talks.

The Turkish government announced this month that it had begun discussing with jailed PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan how to end the conflict.

http://www.worldbulletin.net/?aType=hab ... eID=102122

[Anthea]

Hurriyet Daily News

French prosecutor François Molin has revealed more details over the identity of 20-year-old Ömer Güney, the prime suspect in the murder of three Kurdish activists in Paris on Jan. 9.

Güney is officially under investigation for “attempting or committing murder through in connection to a terrorist organization,” Molin said.

French investigations revealed that Güney reportedly first entered the Paris office with Sakine Cansız, one of the victims, about an hour before the women were shot to death execution-style. He stayed inside for about 20 minutes before departing alone. He returned to the office nearly 10 minutes later, remaining for 45 minutes.

The time frame of Güney entering and exiting the building reportedly matches the estimated times of the murders. He was the last person to be seen with Cansız on security cameras, according to official findings.

Güney was reportedly on bad terms with Cansız for personal reasons.

Güney had entered and left Turkey three times in the last year and had no criminal records in the country. He stayed in Istanbul for several months as well, eventually returning to Germany where he had been residing despite having family in the Garges-les-Gonesse district of France. The suspect has also been a member of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) for the past two years.

He was taken into custody once in Holland in 2009 while working for Roj TV, which he had been reporting for since 2007.

Fourth person in the room

French officials have focused their inquires on Güney on the basis of a fourth cup in the kitchen of the office, hinting that Güney was the last person to see Cansız before the murder.

French forces found gun powder residue on a briefcase which may have been used to hide the murder weapon. The briefcase was found in Güney’s car.

Güney has denied all accusations, claiming that the gun was planted to frame him.

Investigations are continuing on Güney’s involvement in the case.

The women were killed in an execution-style attack as a new round of peace talk was launched between the Turkish government and Abdullah Öcalan, the imprisoned leader of the PKK.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/french ... sCatID=338

[Anthea]

Firat News

Speaking to ANF about Ömer Güney, the suspect detained by French police in connection with the execution of Sakine Cansız, Fidan Doğan and Leyla Şaylemez in Paris on 9 January, the Federation of Kurdish Associations in France (FEYKA) President Mehmet Ülker told about the suspect's relation with the Kurdish circles in France.

FEYKA President Ülker said that suspect Güney had first contacted an association affiliated to FEYKA one year and two months ago. Ülker said the suspect became a member of the Kurdish association in Villiers-le-Bel, the association which is the closest to the neighborhood he said he lived in, on 18 November 2011. According to Ülker, Güney started to visit the association often after that time, joining activities and getting in touch with the people there. “We learned that he spoke good French and therefore helped many friends in the Kurdish circle when they had a problem with the language. However, he had taken no official duty in the Kurdish association so far, he was just a member, like many other Turkish and French friends who can simply join our association, which is a democratic mass organization and doesn't require any conditions for membership.”

Ülker continued answering one of the most frequently asked questions 'how would someone, who is not known very much, accompany Sakine Cansız to the office?' “He gave confidence to the circle by joining activities and translating for people when they needed. Fidan Doğan called him that day and asked him to bring Sakine Cansız to the Kurdistan Information Office.”

Ülker pointed out that the suspect wasn't Sakine Cansız's driver or someone she entrusted for bureaucratic procedures.

According to Ülker, suspect Güney would say that he was Kurdish from the father's side and Turkish from the mother's side, when someone asked him where he came from. However - he adds - the most recent statements by French authorities contradict his words as to where he is from. “In brief, he has a dark side”, said Ülker adding that French Prosecutor's statements are unsatisfactory. “This is a political murder which needs to be shed light on. The eyes of Kurdistan people are on the French state”, he notes.

Remzi Kartal, the leader of the Kurdistan People's Congress (KONGRA-GEL), said on a TV program yesterday evening that Ömer Güney had no ties with the PKK (Kurdistan Workers Party).

Suspect's uncle Zekai Güney, who also spoke to a TV program on CNN TÜRK last night, said that their family had no ties or sympathy for the PKK organization.

http://en.firatnews.com/index.php?rupel ... uceID=5619

[Natsidruk]

I really hoped they weren't kurds..

[burnsss]

he is turkish dog and spy, i dont know how pkk can trust turks.. He is from sivas and turk, dont even speak kurdish revenge will come

[talsor]

Paris murder suspect 'has no links with PKK'

Doubts emerged today about the background and motives of a man accused of the murder of three Kurdish separatists in Paris two weeks ago.

French police believe that the murder could have been provoked by internal rivalries within the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), which is fighting for a separate Kurdish state in south eastern Turkey.

But the uncle of the suspect and Kurdish leaders said today that Omer Guney, 31, was not a Kurd and had no direct connection with the PKK. Kurdish separatists claimed that Mr Guney, who was acting as driver for one of the dead women, might have been a mole working for an extreme Turkish nationalist group.

Mr Guney’s uncle, Zekai Guney, said: “Neither he, nor any of us, have the slightest sympathy for (the PKK)…

Turkish community leaders in the Paris said that Mr Guney had joined one of their associations over a year ago. They said that he was ethnically Turkish, not Kurdish, and had no connection with the PKK.

Mr Guney was formally accused on Monday of “murder in association with a terrorist organisation”. French investigators say that he may not have been the only person involved but there is “no shadow of doubt” that he was involved.

[Anthea]

VERY VERY CONFUSING

The Firat report states: Güney would say that he was Kurdish from the father's side and Turkish from the mother's side.

Omer Guney’s uncle, Zekai Guney, must be related to Omer on his father's side. The side of the family that was thought to be Kurdish.

Perhaps reporters made a mistake and Omer Guney was Kurdish from his mother's side and Turkish from his father's side. If that were the case it would NOT surprise me if Zekai Guney denied that any of his relation were Kurdish.

Omer Guney's uncle, Zekai Guney said: “Neither he, nor any of us, have the slightest sympathy for (the PKK)…

That statement does NOT surprise me. There may well be repercussions from Kurds with possibly several members of the family being at risk or suffering abuse. From the police side there will be in depth investigations into not only into the shootings, but due to pressure from erDOGan, into the European activities of PKK.

Also, they would not be the first Turks to deny that one of their men had married a Kurd.

Turkish community leaders in the Paris said that Mr Guney had joined one of their associations over a year ago. They said that he was ethnically Turkish, not Kurdish, and had no connection with the PKK.

Why did Omer Guney join a Turkish association. He may have even been asked to join and find out what they were doing. He certainly would NOT have told anyone in a Turkish association that he was half Kurdish and supported the PKK.

Why was Omer Guney allowed to drive for a such a high profile PKK leader. The PKK are generally VERY CAREFUL who gets close to their leaders.

[Shirko]

Anthea, why do you keep saying that he is a Kurd? Just like the French authorities. When it is obviouse that he is not a Kurd. And if his mother was a Kurd, he is not Kurrish and he would never call himself a Kurd, he would say that his mother is Kurdish but he would be considered a Turk like his father. Having a Kurdish mother does not make you a Kurd, your father has to be Kurdish.

[Anthea]

Anthea, why do you keep saying that he is a Kurd? Just like the French authorities. When it is obviouse that he is not a Kurd. And if his mother was a Kurd, he is not Kurrish and he would never call himself a Kurd, he would say that his mother is Kurdish but he would be considered a Turk like his father. Having a Kurdish mother does not make you a Kurd, your father has to be Kurdish.

I am NOT saying that Omer Guney is a Kurd. I am just discussing the facts of the case, which at this moment in time do NOT make any sense.

Would you as a Kurd approach the Grey Wolves and expect to be given the job of driving one of their top people?

There would have been some sort of check done on Omer Guney before he got that close.

My theory is that one or more Kurdish people were foolish enough to vouch for him and recommend him to the PKK. So far that is the ONLY solution that makes any sense to me.

Is he the killer? A fact of which they have NO IDEA and NO actual proof. If he was the killer why was someone else's DNA on the gun cartridges and not his. Why was there NO forensic evidence that Omer Guney had actually fired the gun?

If someone visits somewhere with the preplanned intent to kill another person they are highly unlikely to sit and drink tea with them for 45 minutes first. That was NOT the action of a paid assassin or a preplanned assassination.

Why kill all three ladies if the killer was only supposed to be targeting one of the ladies. Killing three ladies has not just caused a storm in the Kurdish community but made it an extremely high profile case promoting a lot of publicity in other countries.

I have read a great many reports on the shootings and the more I read the more confusing it becomes. Remember some of the first statements said that the police had film of THREE men breaking into the centre? ? ?

[Shirko]

Your right. alot things don't make any sense about this case. But it looks like he is guilty and he was a mole. But it was pretty sloppy, so maybe hes a scape goat or who ever sent him was really not that professional.

[Cewlik]

His father is a Kurd and his mother a Turk. But its not about if he is a Kurd or Turk, it is about who are behind the murder. Because Turkey try to blame internal conflicts in the PKK for the killings, but they failed after we saw that a supporter of Turkish racists groups was behind the killings.

[Anthea]

His father is a Kurd and his mother a Turk. But its not about if he is a Kurd or Turk, it is about who are behind the murder. Because Turkey try to blame internal conflicts in the PKK for the killings, but that failed after we saw that a supporter of Turkish racists groups was behind the killings.

Do they actually KNOW who the person behind the killings was?

Who is he?

[Anthea]

A lot of information has been flying around the internet as to who really killed these three lovely Kurdish ladies, who was behind the killings and why?

Does anyone have any ideas what is happening?

[talsor]

A lot of information has been flying around the internet as to who really killed these three lovely Kurdish ladies, who was behind the killings and why?

Does anyone have any ideas what is happening?

Assassinations are rarely resolved and the result of investigation are rarely disclosed by the governments for obvious reasons , so do not hold your breath . The thing to remember is that they were Peshmergas fighting for Kurds and Kurdistan and they were killed as a result by the enemies of Kurds .