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Who are the Kurds?

PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:58 am

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Who are the Kurds?


The 20 million Kurds have lived for over 2500 years in Kurdistan, a mainly mountainous region west of Iran, which is now controlled mainly by Iraq and Turkey. Kurds are related to Iranians The climate is hard. Snow makes many villages inaccessible in the winter and the heat is stifling in the valleys and plains in the summer.

today they are more lol so diri keep cool hahaha



Kurdish history


Kurds were defeated by Alexander the Great, and subsequently Kurds were ruled by the Greeks, then Romans, then Byzantines, and then Turkish Ottomans. When the Ottoman Empire collapsed after the First World War, Kurdistan was divided between Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Syria and Russia.



Kurds today


Kurds are a fairly warlike people. Blood feuds and tribal rivalry have hindered the development of an independent Kurdistan. After the Iraq-Kuwait war in 1991, the no-fly zone in northern Iraq gave Kurds the chance for some self-government, and slowly they have been learning to work together.

true ture they needed a loooooooooooooong to use their brain for working together instead fighting eachother which at least lost the chance to have since long time a kurdish land.



In Russia the Kurds enjoy far more freedom. Kurdish books are published and Kurdish radio programmes can be received. There is greater religious freedom here than in most parts of the Middle East.



In Western Europe there are about half a million Kurds, four-fifths of whom live in Germany. They came as guest-workers or as refugees, for economic, political or religious reasons. Surely this move to the West is part of God's plan for their salvation!

hmm right there are alot kurds here hehe mostly running a Donerkebab Restaurant :P






Kurdish religions


The majority of Kurds are Sunni Muslims. However, there is also a large Shiite community in Iran and Iraq.



Many Kurds in Turkey are Alevi (a Shiite sect). The Alevis think more highly of the Prophet Jesus than do other Muslims. Biblical concepts such as loving your neighbour and freedom rather than legalism are part of Alevi beliefs. Alevis read the New Testament.

thats very interesting :wink:


About 100,000 Kurds are Yezidis. Their faith is a mixture of religions and they are also known as Devil worshippers.

arent there like 1 000 000 yezedis lol



A small number of Kurds are Christians belonging to the ancient orthodox churches.

isnt there any Kurdish church????


one question today there is a kurdish weeding maybe ill go to it but for sure my sister and her fiance are going cause the kurdish guy is a good friend of the fiance of my sister.

so how do kurds celebrate weedings??????? like we assyrians do so not the muslim thing right.

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PostAuthor: Diri » Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:41 am

The 20 million Kurds have lived for over 2500 years in Kurdistan, a mainly mountainous region west of Iran, which is now controlled mainly by Iraq and Turkey. Kurds are related to Iranians The climate is hard. Snow makes many villages inaccessible in the winter and the heat is stifling in the valleys and plains in the summer.

today they are more lol so diri keep cool hahaha



LOL - How did you know I got angry when I saw that little number? :lol: :lol: :lol:


Kurdish weddings are much better than Assyrian weddings... :P There is no religious ceremony at the actual wedding celebrations... Just the days before - when a Mullah marries them "by law" - islamic law... Anyway - I hope you enjoy it! And dance some Kurdish dances - ask them to teach you Shêxanî - Kurdish style... :wink:
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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:58 am

LOL - How did you know I got angry when I saw that little number?


Kurdish weddings are much better than Assyrian weddings... There is no religious ceremony at the actual wedding celebrations... Just the days before - when a Mullah marries them "by law" - islamic law... Anyway - I hope you enjoy it! And dance some Kurdish dances - ask them to teach you Shêxanî - Kurdish style...


to the first one cause i know you hahaha

and to the second one you cant say kurdish weddings are better if you never have been on an assyrian one lol.

and hmm kurdish dances you have to dance fast

ok well if i go there ill tell you guys later how it was if not my sis tells me and then i make a litle report what she said.

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PostAuthor: kardox » Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:53 pm

hey there

Comments : alevies have nothing to do with Islam, they don’t pray and they don’t go to haj, they have some elements of shamanism and Judaism and zarathustrism and islam. They are related to the hawrani tribes in south and east kurdistan. And i dont agree with the numbers either, how can u have 7.000.000 in south and 20.000.000 in north and 10.000.000 in east and about 2-3.000.000 in syria beside the coupel of millions in former sovjet and libanon and europe and end up with 20.000.000?

and i have seen AKs dance better shekhani than the kurds, at least them that are from zakho and dehuk. And their cloth are also very similar to the kurds, in our region they use Shal u Shabk if u know what that is ;)
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PostAuthor: Diri » Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:58 pm

Better Shêxanî? That is impossible... Because they dance different styles - they just use the same name for different dances...

And you ARE aware that the current clothes of the Assyrians (the male outfits especially) are Kurdish? They have added a feather to their head and a clothes around their neck going under their belt...


Rumtaya - did you go to the wedding? Tell us about it...
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:14 am

About figures

Most people say 4 000 000 in south...I guess there is something like 1 000 000 in Bagdad? let's say 5 000 000 in irak then

Impossible to say in North, between 15 000 000 and 20 000 000...there is no census in turkey! (not mentioning "kurds" anyway!!!!)
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PostAuthor: Diri » Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:59 am

tomjez wrote:About figures

Most people say 4 000 000 in south...I guess there is something like 1 000 000 in Bagdad? let's say 5 000 000 in irak then

Impossible to say in North, between 15 000 000 and 20 000 000...there is no census in turkey! (not mentioning "kurds" anyway!!!!)


The numbers which Kardox gave are good... Though the 7 million in South can be discussed... But at least around - more or less 6 million...

Tom - how many Turkmen do you think there are in Iraq? (Don't search before you answer - I just want you honest oppinion)...
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:38 am

No Idea!

Certainly not 2 000 000 or 3 000 000 as the nationalists said!

I won't try to guess!

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Personally I just met 3 of them, each time hotel tenants in Erbil (which was cool for me, I could speak a civilized language (joke) and bargain the price!)
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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:45 pm

No sorry Diri i didnt went they went beofre i have been by a friend

but i have to say my sister said it was ok

i asked her how their dances have beenn she was like :lol:

but the bride was nice haha she was russian thats why maybe

and she also said there havent many people so hmm i think pure kurdish weeding is better.

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PostAuthor: Diri » Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:39 pm

Rumtaya wrote:No sorry Diri i didnt went they went beofre i have been by a friend

but i have to say my sister said it was ok

i asked her how their dances have beenn she was like :lol:

but the bride was nice haha she was russian thats why maybe

and she also said there havent many people so hmm i think pure kurdish weeding is better.



What do you mean "pure Kurdish wedding"???

What... She doesn't like our dances? :x
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